Is Tyson Fury the Best British Heavyweight of All Time?

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Who is the best UK-born heavyweight of all time?

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  1. Tyson Fury

    20.0%
  2. Lennox Lewis

    77.3%
  3. David Haye

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Henry Cooper

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Anthony Joshua

    0.5%
  6. Bob Fitzsimmons

    0.5%
  7. Tommy Farr

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Frank Bruno

    0.5%
  9. Joe Joyce

    1.1%
  10. Don Cockell

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Funny how you trash Lewis for beating Holyfield by stating he was already 37 and 3 losses yet spaffing yourself over fury beating near enough 40 year old wlad who already had three losses.
     
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  2. Jon Saxon

    Jon Saxon Active Member Full Member

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    Hahaha good response
     
  3. kdyehs

    kdyehs Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder sent Fury to the canvas a couple of time. Fury would not get away with this against a prime Lewis who would register a KO against him.

    Lewis first. Fury needs two big wins to make it a legitimate question.
     
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  4. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A lot of people believe Vitali was the better brother and Lewis beat him as a faded 37-year-old. Also, I don't think Lewis would have needed a dreadfully boring decision to topple any version of Wladimir. He likely would have stopped him outright.

    I don't see Wilder as much better than Mercer, Tua, or an old Holyfield, either.

    Once you scrape past the top two victories for Fury, you get to Chisora (2x), Wallin, Hammer, Cunningham, Johnson, etc., Lewis has far more depth.
     
  5. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No I did not. The wins are about the same. It is you who claiming Lewis is far superior. All I say is it is close between Lewis & Fury. Some saying even if Fury beats unbeaten Usyk he is far far behind Lennox. But look fairly at the best achievements of the two. Fury and Lewis very close.
     
  6. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    Fury lost to Mcdermott. He's beaten Whyte and Wilder and Wlad.

    That really doesn't make him the best British HW of all time. Yet.

    I'm sorry but AJ has the best Resume currently if we are looking at that. Lennox Lewis is number 1.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lewis' resume is much deeper as he fought in a much deeper era and had more title defenses as he wasn't banned for 2 years of his prime for doping. The Vitali win alone is better than any single win on Fury's resume. Fury would need to rack up a much longer reign for him to surpass Lewis in my opinion.

    I see the usual Lewis bashers have rolled out the usual lame Rahman and McCall losses while burying their heads on the rest of Lewis' resume. Well to that I say Lewis never needed to rematch anyone on the level of John McDermott to prove he didn't lose the first fight.

    Lewis never been dropped by a cruiserweight.

    Also Lewis didn't vacate the British and Commonwealth titles when mandated to face someone like David Price and suddenly become Irish. Can you imagine the flack Lewis would of taken if he had dumped his European title if mandated to fight Gary Mason and then suddenly fought for the Jamaican or Canadian heavyweight title.

    Lewis has also never partaken in boar meat.
     
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  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    There is a gulf between Lennox and Fury wider than Furys belly. It is laughable to compare them.
     
  9. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Not true;

    But, even if he had, it was all the way back in 2009 — when he was a green, barely twenty-one-year-old kid with modest amateur experience who'd been a professional for significantly less than a year and was taking on an experienced and respected campaigner in only his eighth pro bout — and he knocked John silly in the rematch.

    This is desperate, desperate stuff.

    The anti-Fury crowd can't even borrow a scrap of dignity these days. On the other hand, it's quite a compliment to the big man that they go to these tragic lengths.
     
  10. The Townsend

    The Townsend Zeus. Full Member

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    Not anti Fury at all mate.

    I think he's a great fighter but doesn't out class Lennox Lewis (Yet) and doesn't have a better Resume than Anthony Joshua. If he beats, AJ, Usyk, Joe Joyce and becomes undisputed then yes he's the greatest British HW of all time.
     
  11. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    This post should come with emergency contact information attached. You poor guy. :lol:
     
  12. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I don't recall your prior posts, but you can't blame a guy for questioning the credibility of a man who digs up McDermott in 2022. Fight was a lifetime ago, Fury was a baby. Even if we accept it as a defeat, just for the sake of argument, Fury conclusively avenged it. Greater fighters than Lenny have similarly lost fights early in their careers, besides.

    Lennox's legacy has long been considerably overrated in certain quarters, though I have no issue with him being rated Top 10 at HW.

    As for Joshua's résumé vs. Fury's, it's been argued to death and Joshua doesn't tend to come off better in those debates — you're entitled to your opinion, however.



    Do I really need to destroy the 'Fury ducked Price' fallacy again? Very well;

    My, the Lenny the Lion Cub boys really are suffering with anxiety these past couple years or so. :lol:
     
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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis has 4X the votes i wasn't expecting that
     
  14. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    “Wins against wlad and wilder are the cornerstones of fury’s status” - your words not mine. So basically that leaves wins over Wilder as fury’s main achievements. A guy who 30odd fights into his career was still fighting the likes of Jason gavern.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Interesting, I'll admit I didn't know all that. But Hennessy's story doesn't really add up. Why was he scared to go to purse bids, if he lost he still could of backed out of the fight. There's no real reason why he couldn't have made a good bid and see if he wins, if he doesn't win, no big deal he can back out. But instead he doesn't even try to win the bid and pulls out before a bid can even be made. That clearly shows he had no desire to make the fight at the time.

    Fury probably wasn't scared of Price, Price himself said the same at the time, but Hennessy clearly wasn't confident and protected Fury and his own interests. It's still a duck though but I now see it as Hennessy ducking rather than Fury.
     
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