Is Tyson fury the biggest ducking heavyweight champion of the 21st century?

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  1. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

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    And here we go again. Fury is injured.

    INJURED.

    This isn't the first time Fury has backed out of a fight. He has done it before. Which brings us to a question - is Tyson Fury the biggest ducker of the 21st century? Come April and Fury will go six months without fighting a human being (I wanted to write primate but then I will be accused of...), seventeen months without fighting a boxer and twenty-four months without fighting a mandatory.

    Has there been a greater ducker this century?
     
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  2. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    Clowns like Fury and his huge fanboy following are the reason I don't care anymore for modern boxing.

    At this stage boxing should just merge with the WWE Wrestling.
    At least pro wrestlers are honest, hard working, highly trained professionals putting very fun and entertaining shows.
     
  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    He is the Riddick Bowe of this era. Shameful. Manny Steward was a fan of Fury’s ability but I think he would be profoundly disappointed.
     
  4. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't go so far. Remember Floyd Patterson?
     
  6. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Far and a away the most disappointing heavyweight champion that I can think of not only because of how he wasted the talent and physical traits that he was born with but how he really had a chance to lift this sport up in a time that we as fans needed him most.

    I'm done with the guy.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In Patterson's worst year as a champion he faced the nr. 3 contender. Fury has gone over a year not defending at all, only facing a debutant to competitive boxing in a non-title fight.
     
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    The cut seems to be genuine in this case.

    Of course it's a shame that he had already wasted a year fighting Chisora and Ngannou.
     
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  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have Dempsey drawing the colour line against Wills and not defending at all for three years, but that was unfortunately pretty standard for those times.

    Not that the current times are great in this regard either, but Fury has managed to set a new bar by faking being in camp last year when he clearly had no intention of facing Usyk. If he uses this cut, real or not, to kill the fight I think he really has a strong case as the worst ever.

    But hopefully Usyk finally drags him into the ring 2-3 months from now and beats him into retirement.
     
  10. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, but that is not what the topic is about, this is about ducking challengers. Patterson (or rather Cus D'Amato) ducked a lot of deserving fighters during his reign - Folley, Machen, Williams and most importantly Sonny Liston until 1962.
    If we are simply talking about not defending their title, there are a lot of candidates here - Jack Dempsey had several periods of inactivity during his reign as champion, so did 'gentleman' Jim Corbett. Jack Johnson defended his title only twice between 1910 and 1914 while James J. Braddock did not defend his strap for two years before losing it to Joe Louis. Fury is not the worst culprit, forget the lone.
     
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  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It also seemed genuine when he posted clips of being in camp with Sugar Hill and training hard for Usyk a year ago, but it wasn't.

    Yes, slicing up his eyebrow would certainly be to go one step further, but I'm at the point right now where I don't put much past him.

    The messages coming out from Fury's people directly after about the fight having to be moved back to the end of the year certainly didn't scream of eagerness to get the fight done, to put it lightly.
     
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  12. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would prefer a Fellow GIANT do that too him, just so it can be made clear he IS Not the King of the SUPER - HEAVYWEIGHTS!!!
     
  13. Claude

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    Bowe didn’t hold the belt hostage.
     
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  14. Claude

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    Floyd faced Sonny Liston in the end, and fought everyone he could for the rest of his career. Fury is nearing the end of his career and he only has 3 names on his resume.
     
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So, I've done this to death more or less, but the above is mostly wrong.

    First of all, Williams was never top ranked. He was never even more than a fringe contender in the 50's, so that can be discarded straight off.

    And Liston was just breaking into the top 10 during Patterson's first reign. It wasn't until 1960 that he emerged as the top contender, and Patterson was tied up with Ingo due to rematch clauses during 60-61. So that's comparable to the Wilder situation in '21.

    Patterson should have faced Machen in '58, though, but Harris was ranked nr. 3, hardly a nobody. So that would compare more to Fury facing someone like Joshua or Hrgovic last year instead of Ngannou.

    Patterson also never pretended to be in camp for Liston only to kill the deal by coming with one crazy demand after the other.
     
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