Is Tyson fury the biggest ducking heavyweight champion of the 21st century?

He’s already 35, so it’s doubtful to say the least.

 

It's so hard to know with Fury which state he is in. Normally a figher his age should have some good years left today, but he's just all over the place.

I don't think many today feel a real confidence that the Usyk fight will come off, and if it doesn't what's next for him? Does he then even have the stones to face Zhang/Parker, which the WBC should order him to, or will he drop his only belt? If he does that, he's practically out in the wilderness and might as well retire.

So far he's managed to milk the wins over Wlad and Wilder for 8+ years without facing anyone else who's really threatening. Right now it's hard to see how he can continue further without facing either Usyk or Zhang/Parker, so he's all out of easy fights and therefore seemingly all out of ideas as well.

Maybe if Parker pulls the upset against Zhang he will see that as winnable fight and continue on for a while more. But if Zhang looks good in that fight as well, I don't think he will fancy it if he weasels out of the Usyk fight.

Not saying he won't face Usyk, but you just don't know with him. Feels like anything can happen and retirement certainly is a possibility.

 

anyone can stay in an INACTIVE Career, anyone.

and to worsen that sad fact, he has not fought whom he should have when he should have...

also Lil' Klit, Fury's only name, was in his 16th Year - End of Career finish.

Fury is/was nothing but a Marketing Fighter sideshow and I like the man.

But it is not the man we are talking a-bout, it is the Boxer, who doesn't Bout!

 

Am sure I am repeating myself but this is on the media and his fandom that have excused and allowed his antics and bile for years. The WBC and promoters will allow him to carry on this ****-show as long as fans pay for his fights. It's long past the point people should just ignore him. Be it his hate speech, bullying, avoiding fights and trying to age out Usyk as long as 'fans' are willing to pay for his fights he will keep doing what he wants.

A lot of people are willing to endorse his WWE type stupidity and a large section of the media have gone along with it. Usyk is an example of what this sport needs and Fury has strung him along and wasted valuable time towards what is likely to be the end of his career. There are quality athletes out there who get a fraction of the attention they should and this guy carries on getting away with this - and knowing how it works probably will continue to get away with it.

 

It was a bit surreal in General ar the peak of Fury's hype. His constant threats of walking out of negotiations with AJ for undisputed was excluded and blamed in Joshua, and the the quite unreal slur "the bodybuilder" of soemoen who actually looks like an athlete was seen as a great line.

The sheer adulation he got for beating one of the most manufactured fighters in boxing history was really something to behold

 

I could be wrong, but I think there are more than a few people would think you could be talking about either Fury or Wilder in this context lol.

I for one remain impressed by Fury's victories over Wilder. Though it does seem Wilder is suffering from the old school "done after 37" syndrome, I see him as having been a legitimate (though pretty one-dimensional) champ. Fury couldn't have made himself the (imo irrefutable) ATG he is without Deontay imo.

 

I'm of the opinion that it was Parker rather than age that exposed Wilder. No one was mentioning age when he took out Helenius in typical fashion, and he was the big favourite not only to beat Parker but also Joshua. Then in typical internet fashion it's suddenly clear to everyone who likes him or Fury that he was super washed up all of a sudden.

His best win was a just as old Ortiz that nearly had him in the first fight (where the ref gave Wilder and inexplicable break) and outboxed him just like Parker did in the rematch until he got caught. Even someone like Washington managed to outbox him until he got caught. So even against the very meager quality of opposition he was facing, he was very reliant on his power to bail him out.

Maybe a younger Wilder would have caught Parker as well, but if he had fought more of Parker quality or better contenders it's unlikely that he would have bailed himself out every time. So there might just have been a reason as to why he faced so few of them.

Still he was made into this monster by Rogan and many other Americans since he was the only American HW around, and the Fury fans was of course happy to hop on the train.

But we're talking much closer to Cooney level wins for Fury here than something like Liston or Foreman.

 

Is he supposed to fight with that cut? He looks in the best shape he's fitness he'd had in a long time.

 

Something people forget is that Parker was the main sparring partner for Fury who had been training to fight Wilder for the better part of 5 years. Wilder was spending that time training for Fury not Parker. I suspect that explains the decisiveness of the result. Parker knew Wilder like the back of his hand while Parker was just another oppponent for Wilder.

 

Yet a new excuse. Insights that were totally missing pre fight for some reason (not that I think "he beat Wilder because he had sparred Fury" is a very good one, or even makes sense). Colour me schocked.

 

Perhaps I am being a bit naïve here, but I dismissed the idea that Fury would inflict a cut like this deliberately.

 

Absolutely, ****ing disgrace.

 

I don't think it's likely either and maybe I'm just too fed up with his ****, but he's done such sneaky things before that I find it hard to dismiss much out of hand.

And the whole thing is so weird. The footage that shows no blood when he wipes at the brow with white gloves and then suddenly stops just before he gets close. His camp talking about a long postponement, until September at the earliest, and then when independent doctors have have a look (I guess) a new date is set in May already.

The natural things would try and sound as positive as possible so as not derail such an event, but they went the other route. And why would they need at least nine months for a cut? Even Ali's broken jaw didn't take nearly that long.

So the whole things seems dodgy, with the most dodgy fighter there is at the heart of it.

But, no, I don't think it's very likely that it was deliberately sliced open, but if information would come out that pointed towards that I wouldn't be schocked either.