Is UFC taking over?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by H ., Jun 17, 2007.


  1. ChampionsForever

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  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    It's a shame that they can name that china chinned joke Khan over any other combatant of any fighting sport.:yep
     
  3. ChampionsForever

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    :roll:
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    You have point there. Boxing needs to put together fights like Corrales-Castillo I. I read an article recently about the importance of good matchmaking in some boxing mag - there should really be an effort made to try to make top level fights with an eye toward this.

    That said, while those Mayweather-type fights are not the most exciting, they're more interesting than watching a couple of guys rolling around on the floor. To me, that's only a step above watching paint dry - and not a big one at that!!:lol:
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Not much a fan of Wrestling, Jujitsu and Judo then Zak?:yep
     
  6. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The UFC has a bunch of things that boxing doesn't have right now, but boxing could get back.

    1. Knockouts. Most UFC fights end in REAL knockouts. Lots of boxing fights end in KOs too, don't get me wrong, but watching the likes of Pretty Boy Floyd, Winky Wright, Bernard Hopkins, Paulie Malignaggi, etc. just puts a bad taste in many viewers mouths. Also, taking into account the brutality of a UFC "stoppage" when compared to the relative weakness of many boxing stoppages, UFC has the barbarism that so many people crave.

    2. Good matchups. There aren't four sanctioning bodies in the UFC trying to get their champions to fight light opposition and trying to prevent a unification. There is one body, the UFC and the Dana White forces his title holders to defend their titles against very very real competition. That's the reason that no champion in the UFC ever defends his title 15 or 20 times before losing it, because every defense is against the best competition.

    3. Undercards. Every UFC I have ever seen has had a terrific undercard. Even when there are not many "name" fighters to speak of, they still have great matchups that lead to very good fights. Undercards on some boxing PPVs are so bad that I don't even watch them. When I pay 50 dollars for a UFC I am getting up to 8 quality fights, with boxing I might get 4 snoozer shitty fights and 1 good one.

    4. The "realness" that MMA brings. Whenever you see someone win the UFC Heavyweight title, chances are they are closer to the "baddest man on the planet" title than the heavyweight champ in boxing. The sad truth of the matter is that a champion MMA practitioner truly represents the best at all-around fighting.

    5. Advertising has SOMETHING to do with it, but not as much as I think you guys think. I mean, if people didn't enjoy watching one or two UFCs then they wouldn't buy a third. The advertising gets a lot of people watching but it's the action that keeps them watching. Imagine if you tried to get a friend to start watching boxing so you invite him for the PBF-Oscar fight. Now imagine you wanted him to get into MMA so you brought him over for ANY UFC card. The biggest UFC cards are truly exciting, while the biggest boxing cards are sometimes boring. It seems to be a lot easier to defend for 36 minutes in a boxing match (Ler versus Arce comes to mind) even when against a very strong power puncher than it is to defend in an MMA fight.
     
  7. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    obviously Evisceration is a complete dumbass and doesnt know what he is tallking about. and imperial i am saying that mma guys are better fighters than boxer idiot mighty d 40 said that they cany fight i was disagreein
     
  8. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    I agree with the above post, most boxing cards consist of one good fight and the rest are ****.

    Many MMA cards consist of a good main fight and many good non-main event fights.(except the latest UFC,that was terrible)
     
  9. codeman99998

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    On the subject, it's a shame Vitali didn't move to MMA. He had a spinning backfist that was BRUTAL.
     
  10. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In all fairness to boxing, this is an understatement. I like boxing and I like MMA but there is little doubt that there is a significantly greater amount to be learned if you want to compete in MMA than boxing.
     
  11. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Well yes, i would have to agree,I didn't want to say it because I am on a boxing board and wouldn't want too stir up to much ****. :D
     
  12. codeman99998

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    If that's not your cup of tea than that's fine.

    But know this, there is a lot of strategy and skill and stuff going on while they "roll around on the floor". If you know what you are actually watching, the ground game becomes very entertaining. The first few MMA fights I watched I also thought that all of that "rolling around the floor" was boring, but as I learned more and more about BJJ and amateur wrestling, and exactly what the different positions were on the ground, it really became interesting.

    Honestly, a great ground fight between two very good BJJ practitioners can keep my interest as well as many boxing matches. It can be very entertaining and interesting if you know what you are watching.
     
  13. 4eyes

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    Agreed, when I was a kid in the 80's I remember the same thing happening with kickboxing they said it would take over boxing etc.
     
  14. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they already have a huge star...a legend..unfortunately , He doesn't speak a word of english...and He's not fighting in the US.
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    For a self-described liberal professor in the social sciences, you can be remarkably dogmatic and close-minded on some issues. If you did a bit of research on grappling, you would find that it is an extremely sophisticated combative system. I suspect your boredom comes from a lack of understanding of the intricacies.

    So...if you agree to keep an open mind rather than repeating the same things, I would be more than happy to find you some of the more interesting grappling matches on Youtube. After a while, you may be able to understand it enough to appreciate it. Deal?