Fair enough, and thank you for your compliments. Yes, I see where you're coming from here. But I recommend that, before giving it up as a lost cause, you watch one or two of the grappling matches that are considered exciting. Surely that is a fair standard? If you have youtube, the following are probably the best highlights and matches: Sakuraba vs. Newton Part 1 [YT]aR7r95bU6Ls[/YT] Part 2 [YT]50OWLkI5jWs[/YT] Jacare Highlight [YT]gXM9J10IfSw[/YT] Basic Brazilian Jiujitsu Theory (only 8 minutes) [YT]zMwc8FePaZU[/YT] Highlights from Grappling Sports Judo [YT]3TfQ7qhPMH0[/YT] Greco-Roman Wrestling [YT]3D-NOT_R3hI[/YT] Abu Dhabi [YT]dmtDC0zMUR8[/YT] Brazilian Jiujitsu [YT]Wvsoidud33Q[/YT] Take your pick. :good
Did you watch Gracie vs. Sakuraba II a couple weeks ago? I must say, I am not to much a fan of watchin the grapple technique in action, mainly because in the UFC it is not used to it's fullest potential. This fight however, with both figters being true masters, they went back-and-forth, trying multiple diffrent submissions, it was rather exciting. Diversity is the key if you want to make an exciting ground fight.
Wow......you must be easily pleased. That fight has been roundly criticized even by the most ardent MMA fans as being tediously boring. You actually liked it?
How about boxing and MMA set up a crossover fight? You match up boxers and MMA guys by weight, and let them fight boxing first, then 2 months later they fight MMA rules. You have 3 undercards and 2 main eventers. 145-155 : Mayweather vs. Sean Sherk 155-170 : Calzaghe vs. Matt Sera 171-185 : Hopkins vs. Anderson Silva 186-205 : JMMormeck vs. Quinton Jackson 206-265 : Vlad Klitschko vs. Couture 2 PPVs in 2 months, and a card like this. It will settle the issue once and for all.
Ray Mercer has never had an MMA fight. He is making his MMA début latter this month against Kimbo Slice. Slice is also making his MMA debut in the same fight. Once again, what are you talking about? Ray Mercer has never fought an MMA fighter. He has never fought under MMA rules. He had two fights under K-1 Kickboxing rules. He lost both. Neither of his K-1 opponents have ever had an MMA fight.
Why is everyone so obsessed with comparing the two. You don't have to have over the other. I am boxing fan my whole life and a mma fan since UFC 1. Both can exist and both can have fans. Hell even some people are capable of liking more than one thing at a time.
Boxing is like Underground Hip Hop...only for the chosen few... its gold that shouldnt be mainstream....it's better that way cuz it makes this sport that much more intamite....who cares if the ufc is all up on spike tv and ****...let them white boys grope and slap all they want...but at the end, no other sports can produce the drama, science, action, heart pumpin repetoir like boxing.... as long as we make fights like cotto/judah, this aint going nowhere...name 10 big name fights that hit history in mma or ufc?? of the top of the head...who cares!!! no if hagler and hearns were a ufc bout, would it be the same??? **** no!!! Boxing will always have it's home in the underground...Where it started in the first place!!!!
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You gotta love UFC getting the cover of Sports Illustrated a few weeks ago. Can't tell you who the guys on the cover are though.
i agree...in australia there was recently a fight between national ufc(or whatever its called here) n "john" Wayne Parr(muai thai all time great ask any thai...)...n parr kicked his ass
well while were @ it lets just go back 2 the street fighting...or r u a tradionalist and still like cave fighting...lol
There was a thread on sherdog [mma forum, in the ufc section] yesterday asking if boxing or mma puts on more exciting fights. Even amongst the mma forum everyone conceded that boxing is more exciting and puts on better matches, theres your answer. They said it themselves. When the occasional teenage fanboys posted the "boxing is dead" crap they were found to be in the minority and told theyt were ignorant by the ma afficianados. "Boxing is dead", is merely a marketing line created by dana white to sell his product through the controversy, its the naive, young and ignorant who believe everything they hear who post that nonsense. Dont believe the hype.
