Is Usyk an ATG at Heavyweight?

ATG CW
ATG HW
ATG period

First undisputed HW champion of the four belt era

Was already four months away from turning 35 when he won his first belt at HW and became undisputed when he was 37 y/o all against younger opponents

Even as it stands now he's the 9th oldest HW champion of all time, the 2nd oldest undisputed one, the 3rd oldest unified one and in 8 months he shoots up to becoming the 5th oldest HW champion of all time

Meaning he was already getting on in age and past his best when he won his first HW title

He beat all these giants in their backyards or on the road

And then factor in he's not really a HW and has to eat like crazy to keep the weight on. It you want to argue he's a small HW then don't forget we are in an era where the HWs are bigger or much bigger than ever before

STFU with this nonsense about him not stopping his opponents. Any excuse they can reach for to try and discredit him. He's fighting giants who are way bigger than him, in a division outside his natural one where he's always giving away huge or obscene physical advantages, when he's already been past his prime for years, and even though he can punch he's a boxer first

The fact that he's not a massive puncher makes what he's done even more impressive

He's about the same size as the vast majority of the HW greats pre CW division and was beating opponents his size at CW and ones way bigger than him at HW, whereas the HWs of pre CW eras were generally facing CW sized HWs their size, LHW sized HWs they were bigger or much bigger than, and only very occasionally if ever at all SHW sized HWs and the SHW sized giants of today are athletic, skilled, fast, and coordinated for their size, not big, lumbering slug slow giants

Despite all this and the fact he's fought a murderer's row of KO artists and legit bangers, he's never been knocked down or even badly hurt (low blow doesn't count) or dropped by a head shot.

Even Ali was dropped heavily in his prime and saved from a KO loss by the bell and some corner shenanigans against a 22lb lighter Euro level guy and Joe Louis was badly hurt and staggered by a 30lb lighter Billy Conn who wasn't even a puncher

I'm not trying to be disrespectful by saying this I'm just highlighting how rare it is for any HW champ, no matter how great they are, not to be knocked out, stopped, dropped, badly hurt in their prime even against men their own size, smaller or much smaller and if the same thing happened to Usyk as it did to those top 3 ATG HWs he would be crucified on a molten cross for it and it would immediately be cited as proof that he couldn't live in other eras against big punchers and we all know it

Lewis was one punch ironed out x 2 in the midst of his prime by fighters Usyk would've boxed the ears off

 

And what does ATG of a single weight class mean?

Where's the cut off?

Top 10? Top 20? 30? 40? 50? etc

Why would it only be limited to 10?

 

Thanks

 

HWs of the pre CW era were fighting CWs their size, LHWs who were smaller or much smaller than them, or even SMW sized HWs occasionally and very occasionally SHW sized HWs

All falls under the banner of HW

By the same logic Usyk has been fighting HWs his size, much bigger and way bigger exclusively

But it's considered CW and HW

So he's being penalized because instead of creating a SHW division they created a CW one

He's being discredited or penalized for fighting opponents his size-way bigger, not his size-way smaller or very occasionally or once in a blue moon way bigger ones

He fights in the 12 round era but he's being compared to HWs who fought in the 15 round era and who had 15 rounds to get their opponents out of their, which is something he would've obviously benefited greatly from in that regard

Unlike so many of the other greats, he's fighting in his opponent's backyards or on the road and doesn't have home refs or home judges. And if you don't think that matters then you're very wrong.

It can and very often does mean the difference between a W and L

The difference between a UD and a SD, MD or a DRAW

A fight being scored wider or way wider than it actually was

The difference between a fight getting stopped or going the distance

Being able to foul your opponent or foul them like crazy or not

Hold like crazy or not

A small ring and a average sized or big one

I can keep going

It doesn't often change the course of a fight it has literally changed the course of boxing history more times than can be remembered and stolen a huge part, often the greatest part, of so many fighter's legacies from them

If Usyk has a home ref against Belly the fight likely gets stopped in round 9

If he has a home one against Hunter the fight likely gets stopped in round 12

If he has home judges all his wins on points are UDs