Is Usyk an ATG at Heavyweight?

And that's what I mean by it's up to you. The Ring is a magazine, and I don't pay any attention. However, if you do, I respect that.

 

He's alright.

 

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It is hard to rank him due to his competition. Usyk has fought the best of this era and beaten them, he just doesn't have another ATG to show us how good he really is. He is not the only case like this, people make this same argument about fighters including Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano. They were dominant and skilled fighters but they didn't always face ATG competition, but I would say Usyk is probably ATG just because of his skill level and record.

 

Yes solid first post and agree
He doesn't have an ATG on his resume, but many others don't either and he has proven to be the best of his era in two divisions. Although he lacks longevity in the division, I still think he is an ATG, but his greatness is better demonstrated when you combine the 2 divisions

It is crazy what 2 results can do. Had he lost both times to Fury? Then he obviously wouldn't be a great heavyweight and his all time standing would take a blow. Unfortunately for Fury it is his standing that goes down. This is what the sport should be about. The best fighting the best and I hope we don't go back to fighters ducking and dodging, but I suspect the good times are only temporary

 

Rita be FINE!

 

I totally agree, a fighter that has been this successful in two weight classes should be considered an ATG.

 

She's no Rita Moreno.

 

Dubios was definitely rings ranked top 10, when Usyk fought him, probably top 5, he was on a 4 fight wing streak. At HW is easy to be ranked rings top 10 because its so shallow.

 

She ain't no grandma that's for sure!

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Lmao

 

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I think it depends how we define "ATG" .

an athlete who is assumed to be competitive also in other era,s ?
Yes , he is .

A legend who,s name will be remembered decades after ?
No , surely not

 

Top 15 ATG at HW is where the line should be drawn. I think Usyk is there.
Lewis
Louis
Ali
Holy
Holmes
Foreman
Marciano
Tyson
Frazier
Johnson
Dempsey
Wlad
Vitali
Usyk

in no order..

 

Excellent, 'on-form' post, squire.


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