Is Usyk an ATG?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    • Won a world title in his 10th pro fight
    • Is one of only a handful of fighters to hold all 4 belts, and did it in just his 15th fight
    • Is one of only 3 fighters to win a world title at Cruiserweight and Heavyweight, and one of only 7 to win a title in a lower weight class and Heavyweight (Fitzsimmons, Spinks, Holyfield, Moorer, Jones, Haye, and Usyk)
    Having accomplished all of this, is Usyk an ATG?
     
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  2. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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  3. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes. What he has done in under 20 fights is unprecedented.
     
  4. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    On his way, post-fight hype of Usyk is sweeping this forum, give it a week and the logical opinions will come. Right now, after defeating the forums enemy, AJ, of course that will make the forum put him in top 20 of all time.
     
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  5. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is rubbing shoulders with Hollyfield aka the real deal.

    So you tell me?
     
  6. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Absolutely.
     
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  7. teddybaldock

    teddybaldock Active Member Full Member

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    First ballot hall of famer
     
  8. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On face value of what he has accomplished Yes. However there are several trains of thought on the matter.

    If you subscribe to the theory that Athletes have become bigger stronger faster, and have taken better care of themselves. (better diets, nutrition, less alcohol, no smoking) then Yes

    If you also subscribe to belief that Boxing has become more global and therefore has a deeper overall talent pool than the American centric version that dominated the last 100 years than also yes.

    If you subscribe to the belief that boxing as a barbaric way to make money has led to the best athletes, with many more avenues in the modern world in sports to make money has depleted the talent pool then No.

    I lean Yes
     
  9. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Of course. Cruiserweight GOAT and unified HW champion, largely viewed as pound for pound #1.
     
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  10. BoxingCasual13

    BoxingCasual13 Watches Boxing once a year Full Member

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    Better than Holyfield.
     
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  11. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    If Usyk were American, there would be no debate.

    He's Pound-for-Pound number 1.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you need to ask?

    Wins over six champs in two divisions, some of them vary good, in 19 fights.

    If not Usyk, then who?
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There really sin't any debate.
     
  14. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously, he's an ATG cruiser and a first ballot HOF'er.

    I would, however, like to see see how the remainder of his career plays out before I christen him an ATG in general.
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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