Is Usyk at his lightest ever as a heavyweight?

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Different age back then. He ain't that fast and explosive anylonger. The hunger is different too. But i agree that Usyk and Usyk from his CW days beats them all.
    But wellcyou know?? 37.5 years old would still wipe thw floor with the Gypsy Queen, just wait and see.
     
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  2. Serge

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    Yeah it's not just weight it's age too. You can see the decline in those departments during his CW tenure. He's still awfully good though and the Usyk who fought AJ and Dubois looked better than the one who fought Witherspoon
     
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  3. northpaw

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    Agreed, I don't think a truly elite small HW needs to pack on weight just to pack it on and deal with SHW's, they should be focusing on speed, maneuverability, angles and combinations. Outduel these behemoths, don't try to play their game
     
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  4. lordlosh

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    Best Usyk at HW was against AJ 1. Don't forget WAR started and he didn't train and ear properly for quite some tims, lost 10 kgs., and if you see his physique after that he is a lot more softer compare to back then. He was ripped against AJ 1 and 222. He is still the same size, but softer, which means he lost some muscle and gain some fat.
    His midsection looking is very telling of that.
     
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  5. Serge

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    Especially when you already have a great chin. His speed of hand and foot, reaction times, reflexes and engine would of caused them so many problems. Make them miss and make them pay, tire them out and take them out between round 8-12
     
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  6. Serge

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    True

    Yeah it was and the next best being AJ II. He looked pretty fluid against Dubois too but he was falling short and missing with his shots more than I recall seeing him do before which concerned me a little because they have the same reach as each other
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Don't forget they were fighting in a f**** raining area and Usyk was sleeping all over. And i just had rewatched the fight, and outside of the 20+ lowblows by Dubois, he didn't land anything to be fair. Some good body shots, that doesn't bother Usyk at all.

    The only way Fury wins this fight is via blatant corruption. Otherwise he is getting schooled and KOed. Mark my words.

    Dubois may not be the best boxer, but attributes wise currently he is miles ahead of Fury. Speed, explosiveness, power, not even close. HE is 26 years old, who is super hungry and willing to give it against the top.
    Miller was what? 350 pounds and couldn't do anything to him, and Dubois was the first to stop him as well.
    Dubois was also in fantastic shape against Usyk. And yeah i know he lost to Joyce, but this is a young boxer that constantly develop and improve. It's completely different if he was 30+ years old.

    Usyk outlanded him in every single round and KO him with a jab.
    Mark my words, Usyk going to do a demolition job on Fury, and won't let anything in the judges hand, as he knows they will screw him.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Ah and this is confirmed info, for this fight with Fury. Usyk has sparred constantly for 15 rounds, and every round was 3,5 minutes. And he was changing sparring partners EVERY single round.
    Fury is going to die from a heart attack by the 5-6 round, and Usyk will do a job and KO him after it.

    Fury can't box on high pace, he has never done it, and forget to start doing it at 35 years old. Even if he had eaten the pharmacy, and we know he will be juiced to the grills.
     
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  9. Serge

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    True

    Dubois caught him with some big head shots but they just bounced off of him

    Dubois is actually a very physically gifted, talented and skilled fighter. Vicious power in both hands, physically strong, fast, technically very good boxer, coordinated, rigid body but fluid combinations, nice punch arsenal, great engine etc.

    Problem is there are many ways they can screw him and if he does win and then conveniently pops dirty afterwards we'll know it was set-up
     
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  10. Serge

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    Good to hear. Belly is very fit himself and obviously he's in the best shape we've seen since he fought Wlad. But Usyk is super fit and his fitness should be superior
     
  11. lordlosh

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    I think the one thing people overlook about AJ and Dubois, is the explosiveness and that they can throw combination with ease. And Fury has none of it. And Usyk has nothing to worry about Fury in terms of surprise coming back.
    Fury just ain't explosive, and he doesn't have anything to keep Usyk off him.

    AJ has a power jab and is the best counter puncher currently with a vicious right hand. Fury has none of that.
    Against AJ Usyk was aware of AJ straight right hand pull counter, and he couldn't push in a certain situation, but against Fury, he can just go all in constantly. He doesn't have anything to worry about.
    Also Fury jab is a patty arm punch. You won't keep Usyk off you with that punch.
    Annihilation is incoming and people won't believe what they will witness. Mark my words.
     
  12. lordlosh

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    Bro, come on ... He is not.
    Also 2 thing about Fury has always been overrated. His cradio/stamina and his chin. And both going to be tested and exposed comes May the 18th.

    Fury lost most of the 12th. rounds he was in the past couple of years.
    Even against Ngannou he looked like a s*****. You can't change like that in 5-6 months, and would never happen when you are 35 years old. Will he be better, compare to Ngannou ? Yes and i expect him to come looking good in the first few rounds, and then the steam will go off and he will get picked apart.
    Here is his current physique, as this is from yesterday:
    [url]https://youtube.com/shorts/6aP895J9aFs?si=Z-GzPDEzb5kVcjcn[/url]

    He is better than he was for Ngannou, but it won't be nowhere near enough.

    Also Briedis just say that he knows back in the day how f***** hard he trains, and he knows how harder Usyk trains. And he also say that Fury train good, but nowhere near as hard as Usyk. This is from Briedis.
     
  13. lordlosh

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    Exact Briedis words:
    "I know how I train, and i know how He trains, and believe me Tyson Fury don't train like that.
    God gives him this body, this brain(for Fury), but who will be strongest physically, mentally and technically i think Usyk can show what he do all his life !!!
     
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  14. Serge

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    Yes, hopefully this will be the most motivated and best prepared Usyk we've ever seen. He was extremely motivated to win the belts off AJ and I want to see Dark Usyk for this one
     
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    Fluffer thread if I ever saw one :lol: cute