Is Usyk being overrated now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, Jul 16, 2023.


Is Usyk overrated

  1. Yes

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  2. No - He’s p4p #1 and an all time H2H HW Kingpin

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  3. **** off Ellerbe

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Skill wise no. Ranking at heavyweight, yeah.
     
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  2. Sailor Joe

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    I feel like he's our modern day Gene Tunney.

    A pound for pound fighter, but a bit hard to rate as a heavyweight. Although, if he continued on for a while and got a few good names on his resume at heavyweight, this could change.
     
    Sailor Joe, Jul 17, 2023
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vote
     
    ellerbe, Jul 17, 2023
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  4. J_metal

    J_metal Active Member banned Full Member

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    Bahaha all facts #lowstandards4wilderfans#
     
    J_metal, Jul 17, 2023
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  5. J_metal

    J_metal Active Member banned Full Member

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    This was true n wen uysk was asked about it he said that was his plan all along not sure what to think about it
     
    J_metal, Jul 17, 2023
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah
     
    Dynamicpuncher, Jul 17, 2023
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Cruiserweight division was only created in the 1980s and has never been historically strong, yes Usyk was in a Cruiserweight division that was on the up at the time and he deserves credit.

    But people go a bit overboard sometimes with modern fighters, Usyk's best wins at that weight are a close decision vs Breidis and a win over Gassiev. Good wins yes but ATG worthy ? i'm not sure about that.

    Holyfield beat Carlos De Leon, Dwight Muhammad Qawi x2, at Cruiserweight which are as good as those wins. Aswell as wins over Foreman, Holmes, Tyson x2, Bowe, Mercer, Moorer, at Heavyweight. So Usyk has got some way to catch up to Holyfield who is comparable to him in the fact he started at Cruiserweight.
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, he is a magnificent fighter. Astonishing skill.
     
    tinman, Jul 17, 2023
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    just stop
     
    Reinhardt, Jul 17, 2023
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  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Posters like that guy is exactly why I made this thread.
     
    ellerbe, Jul 17, 2023
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  11. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    He hasn't really had the opportunity to do otherwise. I see no reason to believe Usyk was at fault for not being able to fight Fury.

    AJ is the next best thing he could do.
     
    Vegan Beast, Jul 17, 2023
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  12. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Not disputing that but at the moment he has a lot more to do to convince me
     
    Noel857, Jul 17, 2023
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  13. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    What could he do?
     
    Vegan Beast, Jul 17, 2023
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  14. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Face wilder . Plenty of time and opportunity to do so between mandatories or as a mandatory.
     
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  15. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Wilder will duck, and I fail to see why Wilder is above Joyce, Ruiz, Zhang etc.
     
    Vegan Beast, Jul 17, 2023
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