Is Usyk being overrated now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, Jul 16, 2023.


Is Usyk overrated

  1. Yes

    33 vote(s)
    32.7%

  2. No - He’s p4p #1 and an all time H2H HW Kingpin

    32 vote(s)
    31.7%

  3. **** off Ellerbe

    36 vote(s)
    35.6%
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  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Needs to beat a lot more quality fighters before i reconsider.Even though it might not be his fault these fights are not happening i cannot rate him until i see a lot more.And no, beating Dubois is not an impressive scalp
     
    Noel857, Jul 17, 2023
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  2. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Was he fk .. he totally dismantled Bellew. The stupid Brit media over hyped Bellews success in that fight. You can cite any fighter in history and I bet you can find a fight where they have dropped a couple of rounds to a lesser fighter so what? What Usyk has done in 20 fights is amazing.. its actually unmatched. Even Fury wants no part .. he's a generational fighter.
     
    Goran_, Jul 17, 2023
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  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Somewhat. He's an ATG imo but people's hatred of Fury has caused him to become slightly overrated
     
    Melankomas, Jul 17, 2023
    Melankomas, Jul 17, 2023
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he is, but not much, just a tad

    Great fighter, but resume wise he comes up short compared to top 10 ATG's even when including his cruiser wins
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Jul 17, 2023
    MarkusFlorez99, Jul 17, 2023
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fax
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Jul 17, 2023
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  6. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    I assure you wilder would NOT duck usyk. He has no belt to loose , he is hungry .
     
    mrbigshot, Jul 17, 2023
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  7. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Did Huck hold his own with a prime Povetkin? Did Michael Hunter beat Bakole, Kuzmin and drew with Povetkin?

    Yeah they did. So WTF are you talking about?
     
    It's Ovah, Jul 17, 2023
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm pretty sure you can count all of the **** Off Ellerbe votes as emphatic no's!.:sisi1
     
    CST80, Jul 17, 2023
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Even if it wasn't impressive to you, the man has two wins over Anthony Joshua, which means, he's not overrated at Heavyweight. You can't just waltz into a division and beat on of its kingpins twice if you're overrated. Sure, maybe AJ got a tad bit overrated, I was one of his most vocal critics. But at this point, he's being vastly underrated by most. Also, I think we can all agree that, most boxers have styles that give them issues and when they face an opponent with said style, they end up looking subpar. Yet what are we supposed to chalk that up to? Are we supposed to ignore all of the times they looked impressive against superior opponents and assume that was a fluke? Or are we to look the poor performance against an average opponent who also happens to be stylistic nightmare and chalk it up as a one off bad night at the office, due to that fighter possessing a style that give them problems? Obviously it's option number 2. Either that or we negate Fury's wins over Wlad and Wilder because he had a poor showing against McDermott and Wallin. Negate all of Wlad's far superior wins because of Brewster, Puritty and Sanders.
     
    CST80, Jul 17, 2023
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  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    You called Usyk beating Joshua for almost a decade before it happened. I remember you posted Joyce vs Usyk - my Ukrainian boy always thought Joshua would beat Usyk but after seeing the fight between Usyk and Joyce his mind changed.
     
    ellerbe, Jul 17, 2023
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  11. TavoPalacios956

    TavoPalacios956 New Member Full Member

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    Yes he’s best win is against a guy who lost to a small fat fighter who knocked AJ several times and made him quit !
     
    TavoPalacios956, Jul 17, 2023
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  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    One of my first big calls and threads on here. That should've been an indication to all..... I'm built different.:sisi1 Also predicted Inoue would be an ATG.:D

    That's awesome, hopefully he made some easy cash on Usyk.
     
    CST80, Jul 17, 2023
    CST80, Jul 17, 2023
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Who also has KO wins against Klitschko, Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte, Takam, and UD wins over Parker, Franklin and the guy who beat him Ruiz. Are we supposed to pretend like the guy with perhaps the best resume at Heavyweight, is now a bum, because of one bad showing, against an aforementioned stylistic nightmare? A few were warning that he needed to be very wary against Ruiz, because Ruiz had the style to beat him. Including myself, who predicted Ruiz would KO him and in the 7th and @kirk, another mod gave serious consideration to picking Ruiz. Because we both know how this sport works far better than you and anyone who uses that bull**** line of reasoning.
     
    CST80, Jul 17, 2023
    CST80, Jul 17, 2023
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  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    He didn’t, I did - he doesn’t gamble.He was happy as hell though.
     
    ellerbe, Jul 17, 2023
    ellerbe, Jul 17, 2023
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I've been indirectly predicting Crawford beats Spence for almost as long. Take heed.;)
     
    CST80, Jul 17, 2023
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