Is Usyk h2h #1 above Lewis, Vitali, Holmes, Wladimir, Ali ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by MarkusFlorez99, Sep 20, 2025 at 12:14 PM.


Is Usyk the h2h goat ?

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  1. Yes, all the other heavyweights have overrated skillset

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  2. No

    90.9%
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then shut up if you don't care

    You have yet to explain what I lied about. You're retreating because you took the post out of context claiming i shifted the goal post and now you're being dishonest.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I already have. You are choosing not to understand. To anyone reading through the thread, you are making a fool of yourself.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone smarter than that will see you being dishonest and taking statements out of context by claiming the goal post was shifted, only to retreat when asked why. Still no argument and you're strawmanning like a complete imbecile
     
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  4. Steve Fero

    Steve Fero Member Full Member

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    Let’s get back to giving our opinions on who’s the GOAT. I think Lewis would be a little too much for Uzyk. Otherwise he's better than anyone else. Here’s my list:
    1 Lewis
    2 Usyk
    3 Fury
    4 Holyfield
    5 Vitali
    6 Ali
    7 Tyson
    8 Holmes
    9 Foreman
    10 Bowe
    11 Wald
    12 Wilder
    13 Mike Moorer
    14 Ray Mercer
    15 Liston
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You came through with the atrocious list but forgot the part where you post a ten page essay to disparage Marciano.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    It's worth mentioning at this point that Usyk has beaten 5 heavyweights in his life.
     
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  7. h8me

    h8me Member Full Member

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    Multiple opponents of Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes etc. were smaller or roughly the same size as Usyk's opponents in CW. Usyk also beat a few heavyweights in the WSB tournament.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Yeah I only really count the open division regardless. None of the other cruisers have made a name for themselves up higher, including anyone Usyk beat. Being H2H one could argue them harder but none overly impress me as heavyweights.
     
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