is usyk on steroids ?

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  1. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heavyweights don't cut weight!
     
  2. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    The proof in video. Even dressed we see that he had lost a lot of weight.
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    Usyk was obviously already on steroids at cruiserweight.
     
  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When was Usyk Pudgy and where did you get the 20lbs in a year stat from? 20lbs over what he weighed at cruiserweight would put him around 230 lbs. and Usyk hasn't fought at cruiserweight in years.
     
  4. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes..that's absolutely achievable for a boxer...he's not gone op massive
     
  5. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where's this 20 pounds of lean muscle stat come from everyone keeps mentioning
     
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  6. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Absolutely nowhere sensible & reliable.
    And not many insist upon it, but now it is being debated.

    Some get it, but many here are ignorant about this issue.
    Ironically "ignorant" is often assuming you know something absent evidence!
    Among the many who parrot that all or most are on gear, there is not even a shred of an argument or evidence presented-just blind asserrtion of the premise.
    Not that tired recitation of incentives to do so would be any more valid than listing deterrents, ethics & practical & health concerns why not.

    We do not KNOW if a decent sized minority or the vast majority either dabbled-or use regularly.
    It is just as lazy & unfair as those who mindlessly chirp "all politicians are corrupt"-or all in the party you are conditioned like a lab rat to hate are...
    It is like citing the massive # of men over 6' as evidence that everyone is.

    YES lighting, doctored photos, a pump, water retention, more BF % pose, hitting the weights harder for weeks & other factors can make a big difference.
    This is done all the time in frudulent "before & after" photos where bodybuilders gain weight for the before picture.
    IF Usyk gained 20 lbs. of muscle in a few weeks or a couple months absolutely that would be juicing.
    BUT weight can be gained & lost very quickly from: food. water. waste. fat.
    Usyk even above was documented to have lost weight in & because of the war.

    AND the photos are not evidence of something at all beyond a lifetrime natural athlete-even one doing much cardio.
    I cannot say if Usyk ever did PEDs.
    Anyone might have.
    But it is irrational & unfair to assume usage based on anything but really good evidence.
     
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  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  8. VOXDEI

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    I assume boxers are until proven otherwise.
     
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  9. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As someone who has seen people use a lot of steroids there is nothing remotely dodgy looking about that picture...looks like someone who has added Abit of weights to his routine,cleaned up his diet and got a muscle pump on...n people acting like he's gone from Andy Ruiz to jay cutler lol
     
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  10. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sometimes its obvious though. Look at AJ. Aint no way he aint roided with his bubble gut.
     
  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    As Rocky Balboa used to say...AB-solutely!
    Tons of folks might look roidy (sic) to the unknowledgeable, when photoshop lighting working out genetics a pump certain angles or clothes etc...Can give better "results" than others who DO use but for various reasons it does not show!
     
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  12. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is doing tons of kettlebell exercises and still don't have power. that is the bigger mystery.
     
  13. djfonti

    djfonti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He looks fairly normal to me. I remember everyone was saying the exact same thing in the run up to the Joshua rematch based off a picture. About how he was going to weigh in so heavy.
    Then he was almost identical to his previous fight weight and looked completely normal on the night and they all disappeared again.
    People are dumb.
     
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  14. VOXDEI

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    Sorry - I miss-typed.

    sans not.

    I assume they are roided until proven otherwise.
     
  15. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was an interview with him pre chisora fight where he said it himself, he had put on 20lbs and was leaner than he was at cruiser.