Is Usyk still the World Heavyweight Championship (in your view)?

Unlike Foreman then Briggs whose Lineage went back to Floyd Patterson Usyk's goes back to who ? Debatable.

 

He was a Mike Tyson figure--he created a lineage by pulling together all the ends.

 

He would have kept his titles if he really thought he could still compete at the top level.

 

It goes back either to Wlad, or to Fury, depending on how you look at Fury's inactivity between 2016 and 2018.

 

This is what I mean. It’s debatable.

 

Mike Tyson never became Lineal because and ends, loose or not. He became Lineal after Michael Spinks. Whe beat Holmes, who beat, etc.

 

It's not debatable as the fact is Usyk is the lineal champion. Debatable is only when you start the lineage.

 

Disagree. Had Spinks never come back, that would have been the new lineage.

 

The most deserving fighter with a belt to call himself the overall HW Champion is Agit Kabayel.

Lets see if Gassiev or Dubois dares to face him.

WBA: Murat Gassiev

WBC: Agit Kabayel

IBF: Vacant

WBO: Daniel Dubois