Is Usyk the best heavyweight since Ali?

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Is Usyk the best heavyweight since Ali?

Poll closed Oct 19, 2022.

  1. Yes

    19 vote(s)
    25.0%

  2. No

    57 vote(s)
    75.0%
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  1. TheVet

    TheVet Member banned Full Member

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    Ali knocked out intimdating heavy hiting Foreman, Usyk cant knock out the glassed chinned 10 round bodybuilder.. People here thinking beating AJ is a big deal and makes Usyk the best HW since Ali? LMAO! This is the weakest ra in boxing by a mile. Look at Fury declaring himself the best ever because he beat limited Wilder and Wyhte.

    How long will AJ last with prime Tyson that fought Berbick / Spinks. I cant see AJ go more than 3 rounds at most. Tyson walks though him and smashs him up. First real punch Tyson lands AJ will be running for his life.

    AJ is not even in the top 100 HW's of all time, forget the belts, so how does Usyk beating AJ make him the best since Ali?

    This forum is full of dumb idiots who DKSAB.
     
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  2. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he only beat 1 rated heavyweight (Joshua)
    & a plodder fringe gatekeeper (Chisora)

    & they were not complete ' shut out " wins

    to say he is best or most skillful since Ali
    this is stupid talk
     
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  3. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Skill is subjective, you can't tell me Usyk was more skilled than a young Tyson or Holmes. He beat AJ twice but Michael Spinks beat an undefeated Holmes twice for the lineal title coming up from 175. Usyk is great but he hasn't really done anything impressive at HW to warrant such high praise.
     
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  4. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on skill, he is one of the best imo.
     
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  5. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyroid was great.
     
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  6. BritInvasion

    BritInvasion keepin on keepin on Full Member

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    At this moment in time? Absolutely not.

    Holmes
    Tyson
    Bowe
    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Vitali
    Wlad
    Fury
     
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  7. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes
     
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  8. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury will beat Usyk and I believe Wilder also beats him . There was moments in the rematch where I just thought Wilder would no doubt be behind on points but he would stop him eventually .
     
    Mickc, Aug 21, 2022
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  9. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Hell no cmon.
     
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  10. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe I'm wrong for saying this but all this usyk is the greatest hype seems to be spouted by boxing fans from the eastern bloc, it's ridiculous. Usyk has fought 4 times at heavyweight what are you judging his greatness at heavyweight by?? All the fighters he has beat at heavyweight have been beaten far more convincingly by supposedly lesser fighters than him prior to him fighting them.
    Does that make Seth Mitchell David haye or Andy Ruiz candidates for greatest heavyweight? Of course not! Usyk has work to do at heavyweight before being considered amongst the greats and so does Fury
     
    uppakut, Aug 21, 2022
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  11. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    Couldn't have said it any better
     
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  12. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    Not but he's the best cruiserweight since evander Holyfield so that's not too bad at all
     
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  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hes the best p4p HW champ since Ali. I do not think hes a better HW than Lewis, Holmes or even Fury. But he ranks higher p4p all time.
     
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  14. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Skill set definitely.
     
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  15. kirk

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    I think when people use the term 'best ' at heavyweight though, it tends to be who would actually win in a fight, or who is the most accomplished (at the weight), best heavyweight legacy, ect.... and not who is theoretically better p4p.

    Since when do we start ranking heavyweights by how they rank p4p? Idk... first Ive really seen it. Seems a bit silly to me tbh.

    But ok Usyk likely isnt top 3 actual best since Ali, but hes probably the p4p best heavyweight since then, sure.
     
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