Is Usyk the only clean champion in boxing

The only reason a fighter would fight once a year is to cycle or heal from injuries. If you do it every year, you’re a cheater.

Inoue fights 4x a year. That’s the best proof you can get, way less time to cycle.

 

No physical signs he's on the juice? Other than transforming from a scrawny MW in the AM's to a jacked 230lb heavy weight at 38 years of age? He is clearly juicing like the rest of them.

 

I would be shocked Usyk doesn't microdose EPO. He just happens to have inhuman recovery, sure he does.
I would be shocked too if he doesn't take a TRT dose of testosterone at the least. Why would you not in your late 30s?
Pacquiao the ageless "natural" wonder at 46 lol.

I was actually just complaining earlier today how we are never going to get past Ben Johnson from 1988 in my entire life.

As if really competitive people will do anything to win for millions of dollars but not do the very things that will help them win the most. I will do anything to win! PEDs? Hell no! It is so illogical and ridiculous.

For some reason, people want to be fooled into thinking guys are "natural".

Chael Sonnen has a good video on how great EPO is and no one in MMA has tested positive in like 6 years. No one has used it in boxing since Mosley 20+ years ago. Yea ok. Couldn't possibly be that most guys are professionals, know how to beat the IQ test and not a complete moron like Ryan Garcia taking a borderline useless for boxing SARM with a massively long detection time.

 

So Jack Dempsey was on the juice?

That is a pretty broad statement.

 

I don't think that's a fair assessment. Usyk has essentially been campaigning at heavyweight since 2008; he's also still relatively small compared to other heavyweights, and was quite a large cruiserweight. Some fighters look suspiciously big, I don't think Usyk is one of them.

 

like every notable athlete in every sport at every level from high school up.

 

It's possible he is. I wouldn't bet my life on it, but he has the traits of someone who might be clean.

For instance people bring up Sonnen, who is clearly a dodgy individual, was already busted for fraud and definitely has a car salesman personality, grifter type. It all makes sense.

As for Usyk's weight. He was clearly never a MW or some such as an adult. He's obviously a natural cruiser and a decent size one so the trip to 220-ish lbs isn't unbelievable. He would have cut about 10-15lbs to make cruiser. So he's only about 10lbs off his HW size.

A lot of HW's are simply fat and could make cruiser if they were actual athletes. And a some roid to get there when they are more like LHW's or even MW's, including 'ATG's' like Tyson, Holyfield, Byrd, RJJ and so on.

Usyk doesn't need to roid to get to HW size. Whether that makes him clean, who knows. It's hard to tell with the endurance also, which would be the most suspect thing at his age, but because so many of these HW's are lazy fake athletes and bulked up on roids, there's no reason they should have better fitness than a 38 year old either.

 

It's not an eye test. If it was they wouldn't need laboratories, would they?

Did Miller look like he was on the juice (multiple times)? Did Whyte look like he was on the juice (multiple times)?

 

Forget about fair. It is an absolutely absurd assessment.

The poster should be tested for mind altering drugs.

 

Lol

 

Probably not, but I don’t think that should affect his ranking since I seriously doubt any of them are 100% clean at that level.

 

Maybe Usyk is on gear or maybe he's not, but there are clearly plenty of other reasons to not fight more frequently than just being injured or needing to cycle.

The entire sport of boxing has gone to less overall fights. Why? Boxing isn't a big-time sport anymore and thus isn't on regular TV like other sports. So the promoters aren't trying to fulfill TV contracts where they need X amount of fights to be put on. Instead, they're utilizing a PPV model where profitability is the main motivating factor. You need the right opponent to draw interest, you need the correct venue for ticket sales, and you have to make deals with broadcasters like SkySports or TNT or whomever. This all requires tons of planning, negotiating, and for the biggest fights it means a lot of up-front capital which limits how many of these fights you can do a year. Boxers get paid more in the modern era so you want Usyk to fight? Well, he's getting 8 figures and his opponent will at least be getting 7 figures, if not also 8. Gonna have to sell a lot of PPVs to make that profitable!

You wanna know why Inoue can/will fight 4x in a year? Because he's a tiny fighter with a built in racial fanbase in Japan. Lighter weight guys don't get paid near what the big boys do. So it's easier to make those fights profitable. It becomes even easier than that when you've got a Japanese star that fights 99% of the time in Japan. You know you'll be selling out whatever arena you choose no matter who his opponent is. You don't have to sell Inoue fights. They sell themselves. Plus, Inoue's fights aren't PPV usually, IIRC. So the more he fights the more they get from TV revenue.

Outside of monetary concerns, there are just level of interest and health concerns. Turki doesn't want to pay for Parker v. Usyk. So the pot of money is going to be a lot smaller. Most people aren't big Joe Parker fans (rightly or wrongly) and he's from New Zealand so not a lot of home town support. Most people think it won't be a competitive and/or interesting fight (rightly or wrongly). So, who is going to pay to see that fight? It becomes even more silly if you want guys to fight 4x a year. So Usyk is supposed to fight who, exactly? Is he supposed to Deontay Wilder this thing and get every cab driver he can? No one would expect him to fight 4 top level contenders in one year. That's absurd. So now you'd have more fights, that don't sell or make money, and they're a bore.

Beyond that, fighters have to consider their health. Getting punched in the head isn't good for you. The less you do it the better for your long term health. Old time fighters didn't have a choice. They never got paid enough so they HAD to fight often. Today's boxer's do get paid well when they're at the top. So why would they fight more frequently? You see this across boxing. Bivol, Beterbiev, Boots, Crawford, Shakur, Teo, Haney, AJ, Fury, name any top level boxer basically. None of them are fighting 4x a freaking year.

You're also conveniently leaving out things directly related to Usyk. Having to move up to the biggest weight class, COVID, his country getting invaded, and Fury ducking him when Usyk is trying to make Undisputed happen. Seems a bit disingenuous to jump straight to "He only fights once a year! He's a cheat!" Especially considering he fought the biggest boxer on the planet TWICE last year who outweighed him by up to 55 pounds while being half a foot taller than him.

You also seem to not actually understand how cycling steroids works. You can get by with six week cycles easily. If you're an ultra-advanced user looking to pack on serious gains you can up it to 10-12 weeks. Three months to roid, one month to clear your system, fight 3x a year. Especially in boxing where they'll only test you right before and after a fight. Nevermind that it's rather easy to just fool/get around the tests. Lance Armstrong never once tested positive for steroids or EPO. Victor Conte, the man famous for fooling drug testing, is deeply involved in boxing with his SNAC corporation. So why would you need a year to cycle? That's actually counterproductive.