Is Vasilly Lomachenko an all time great

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Thunderstorm, Aug 7, 2022.

  1. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

    Jan 24, 2022
    Did he do enough
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  2. fencik45

    fencik45 Active Member Full Member

    Jun 6, 2022
    Did he retire?
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  3. AdamT

    AdamT Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 18, 2019
  4. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Sextus Julius Severus Full Member

    Nov 4, 2017

    He's possibly the most talented fighter of all time, but has been poorly promoted and badly managed by Top Rank.
  5. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan KC ATR: 45-6 SR: 45-6 Full Member

    Aug 9, 2020
    No chance at all for ATG professional. Obviously ATG amateur with an argument for GOAT, but as a professional neither his resume nor his actual results in the ring stand up to ATG scrutiny.
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  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    Dec 6, 2008
    Great fighter but not an ATG. Has the potential to be, or had the potential if he had more time.
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  7. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 24, 2005
    If he defeats Stevenson at 130lbs and cleans out that division in his mid-30s, Loma will cement his status as an ATG.

    Loma is certainly not a cross-division ATG, like a Floyd or Pac, but I believe he is an ATG talent at 130lbs, a weight he would have dominated for years had he elected to remain there.
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  8. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT 32–0–1 Full Member

    Sep 26, 2021
  9. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 21, 2015
    No. Hasn’t done nearly enough.
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    Sep 15, 2009
    No, unfortunately not.

    The Salido loss can be overlooked in many ways because it was close, he didn't make weight, and it was early in his career.

    But ultimately he didn't get the fights at FW to secure greatness, he looked amazing at SFW but never managed to unfiy.

    At LW he did unify but obviously lost to Lopez, I'd say if he beats Lopez and some of the marquee names that now exist at LW, the ATG mantle is there for his to hold.

    For example, Lopez, Kambosos, Haney, Davis, Garcia. All. Winnable fights for him and all big recognisable names.

    Big ask at his age now though.
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  11. JOKER

    JOKER CEO of the LDBWC Club Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    Lomachenko should have taken the Pac fight. He would have been molested and brutally stopped, but if he somehow pulled it off, Pac's name on his ledger would make him a lock for an ATG.
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  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free The Guys! F 12 & Goofies Stay Dangerous! Full Member

    Jun 23, 2005
    Close but he hasn't done enough as a pro to be a legit atg. He's probably a hof level fighter though.
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  13. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 20, 2011
    Not to me. Only 18 fights 2 of them losses. I need a little more from my ATG's
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  14. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Икрашевић Full Member

    Nov 3, 2021
    Orlando Salido should have been disqualified for low blows.
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  15. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Member Full Member

    Dec 12, 2021
    Not really. Skill wise he could've been but he dropped the ball a few times to be considered one.
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