Is Vasyl Lomachenko p4p the GOAT?

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    If not, where would you rank him?
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Depends

    Lomachenko is only a 3 division champ. Thats nothing new and several have surpassed that long ago. But he could give Anthony Joshua a good beating so if they make that fight he could become the pfp GOAT
     
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  4. drenlou

    drenlou Most people DKSAB! I got your Gordo @JOKER Full Member

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    Nah Beouche, not quite. Id rank him around 6 or 7.
     
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  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Great to hear from you my friend! I reckon you got him ranked pretty much spot on :deal:
     
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  6. drenlou

    drenlou Most people DKSAB! I got your Gordo @JOKER Full Member

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    Whats up bro! I thought someone bumped an old thread of yours, i had to do a double take! Its good to see you back.
     
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  7. Fogger

    Fogger Active Member Full Member

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    All time pound for pound Lomachenko has not done enough to be in the top 30. The question is pretty absurd.
     
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  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    He's challenged and beat the very best in his weight class.... and the division above.... and the division above.... and the division above.....

    He's got an amateur record of 396-1

    He's got the most insane footwork of all time by miles. The guy's a genius. Ranking him outside the top 30 seems bitter/hateful - what more can he do to please you??
     
  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Back from the dead ese

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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free The Guys! F 12 & Goofies Stay Dangerous! Full Member

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    Higher than SRR that's for damn sure.
     
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  11. drenlou

    drenlou Most people DKSAB! I got your Gordo @JOKER Full Member

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  12. PistolPat

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    Most definitely, SRL had the 4 kings. Loma had the 3 Messiahs. Campbell, Linares and Loma. If Thomas Hearns (one of SRL's best wins) was the same size as Linares and landed a chopping right on Linares's chin, Tommy Hearns would bleed out from all the lacerations he incurred due to projectile shrapnel from Linares's chin shattering.

    A KO without landing a single punch.

    And Duran was the man!
     
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  13. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    :deal:

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  14. Jackman65

    Jackman65 Oh yeah, FJB! Full Member

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    He’s a great technician with amazing skills. I don’t compare active fighters to historical ones until they retire. Very few guys in boxing have his competitive spirit (Usyk is probably the only other guy) and willingness to fight much bigger guys without max hydration restrictions.

    Canelo has been moving up to figjt bigger guys but when he moved to SMW he didn’t face the best fighters. When he moved to LH, he somehow avoided Bivol and Beterbiev. He’s now moving to Cruiser to fight a guy no one would confuse with the best int he division. At LH he didn’t look any smaller than the shell of vodka soaked Kov. He’s still young and I hope to see him fight the top guys. He has a chance to make history. If he loses to one of the top guys, I’ll still respect him for taking the chance. I hope he settles at a weight and unifies the belts, and defends them like a serious champion not a sideshow act.

    Either way, I would rather wait until fighters are retired before comparing them to ATGs. If Usyk beats Fury convincingly, I’ll be tempted to break my rule. The mammoth size difference and legit skills of Fury wouod make it a historic accomplishment.
     
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  15. Fogger

    Fogger Active Member Full Member

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    This is not an all or nothing situation. I am not saying anything bad about Loma. The man is a great fighter with an incredible skill set. He is also just 16-2 with one win by majority decision and other fight where he got knocked down. There is nothing at all wrong with that resume but if someone is going to be considered the P4P GOAT of the last 125 years or even in the top 30 after only 18 fights he better be nearly freakin' invincible.
     
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