Is vitali is a cherry picker?

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  1. Beatle

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    We're talking about GOOD fighters: you know, guys that people with brains think are good. Not what the paper title "rankings" say. The WBC somehow approved a 40-year-old shot-to-death Shannon Briggs as a "contender".

    Use your own brain, then we'll talk.
     
  2. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    personally in my opinion..a broken jaw dosnt stop you from defending yourself..yea it sure as hell hurts when it gets hit repeatidly but they had BOTH FUNCTIONING ARMS TO DEFEND THERE BROKEN JAW...your just another ignoramous...vitali had a bad cut against lewis did he quit or want to quit?no do you no why??because he had 2 functioning arms to try and protect his cut face...i suppose your one of these silly *******s who thinks hayes pinky toe was the reason why he lost...and i wasnt saying u need to be a boxer.i was saying to the idiot poster that he needs to go and try to do some sports pick up an injury to see why it can be difficult sometimes....no please very kindly **** off into the night with your biased shite and hate...thank you..regards...huge *****
     
  3. Beatle

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    Compare Wlad's resume to Vitali's, and you will inevitably arrive at the conclusion that Vitali is a cherrypicker.
     
  4. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Okay..
    The Klitschkos are bums.
    They cherry pick
    they are murders
    they are rapists
    Their comp is cherry picked bums
    Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis etc will all beat them easily
    They are by far the weakest champions in history..

    Now, here you have it.. Will you please stop posting these ******ed Klitschko threads now?
     
  5. shanahan14

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    I love how you left out Lewis whom is better than anyone you just mentioned.....because he was nearly sent to the morgue against Klit.
     
  6. itsa huge bitch

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    theres no point trying to explain bro..the lights are on but theres no1 home
     
  7. Beatle

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    We're talking about GOOD fighters: you know, guys that people with brains think are good. Not what the paper title "rankings" say. The WBC somehow approved a 40-year-old shot-to-death Shannon Briggs as a "contender".

    Use your own brain, then we'll talk.
     
  8. madballster

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    The irony of it all is you picked EVERY SINGLE "bum" to win over Vitali and every time you were wrong :lol:
     
  9. Beatle

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    No, we think he should have fought Holyfield anytime from 1999 to 2002, when it would have mattered. Instead, Vitali fought Ed Mahone, Obed Sullivan, and Vaughn Bean. Those guys were great opponents, weren't they? Better than Holyfield, for sure.

    Keep dreaming, nuthuggers, and don't complain about no big fights happening in boxing, because it's thanks to you that the cherrypickers make money.
     
  10. Beatle

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    Holmes fighting Ali was equally bad, but Holmes cleaned out the division while he was at it. Vitali never came close to doing that.

    It's OK to fight an old man who is still a good fighter. Marciano fought Louis, Walcott and Moore when they were either champions or (in the case of Louis) one of the top 3 in the HW division. But Vitali fought Briggs instead of fighting Chambers, Chagaev, or another prime top 10 fighter. Too many top fighters are missing from Vitali's resume! Compare it to Wlad's, for God's sake!

    He does occasionally fight a good fighter, like Solis and Arreola. But he only fights the fat contenders. The ones who are in shape and fast go to Wlad. Vitali gets the easy pickings (Albert Sosnowski, Kevin Johnson, Juan Gomez). The fact that you point out gomez as one of Vitali's best wins is laughable. Gomez has not one good win on his resume.

    Adamek is the most dangerous fighter in the division. This is incredibly unusual. I assume it's because Wlad couldn't fight Haye and Adamek in two months' time.

    Or maybe they feel that even if Adamek wins, Wlad could unify the titles by beating Adamek. They know Adamek wants big money fights. Vitali will prob retire after he loses to Adamek. If he wins, I'll give him a lot of credit because Adamek is a great fighter who is still in his prime.
     
  11. Beatle

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    And that's why everyone thinks Vitali is a superman. He fights bums and beats in such spectacular fashion that it's almost impossible not to view him as a miracle worker.

    The reason he looks like Muhammad Ali in the ring is because he's fighting taxi drivers. He looks like the Matrix because his opponents are slow and fat. Can you imagine Vitali against a fast opponent who actually throws back? The only time he fought someone like that was Chris Byrd, and we all know what happened there.

    It's too late now because he's 40, but he should have fought Dimitrenko, Chambers, Byrd 2 (why on Earth did he not demand a rematch?), Chagaev. The way it is, we can't say he's great.
     
  12. Zakman

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    Jeez, this really puts the lie to this silliness that Vitali is a "cherrypicker" huh??:rofl:rofl
     
  13. Beatle

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    You're wrong. Tyson is the only man who beat a prime Tony Tucker.

    After that competitive 1987 fight, Tucker became a cocaine addict and quit boxing. He made a comeback in 1989, but was 25 pounds heavier! Despite this, he beat Orlin Norris and Oliver McCall, until the cherrypicking Lennox finally mustered up the courage to fight him. Lennox couldn't even knock him out.

    Only in 1996 did Orlin Norris beat Tucker. You are ridiculous for using this fight as a testament to Vitali's greatness. You people really make me laugh sometimes.

    Tyson, Tucker and Wlad are the 3 last great heavyweights. Face the facts. Vitali and Lennox were the vultures of the division. They're lucky they had the luxury of ducking Wlad.
     
  14. Zakman

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    You're absolutely right about Holmes. I was following boxing closely at that time, and his opponents would be regarded today as worse than many of Vitali's - Lorenzo Zannon? Scott LeDoux? Lucien Rodriguez? Scott Frank? David Bey? Come on! These guys were mediocre, at best.

    Even some of the better guys he fought like Coony, Snipes or Witherspoon were green when he took them on, and like you said, Witherspoon should have gotten the nod! Shavers was old, as was Norton - and he went life and death with them! Probably the best prime guy he fought was Mike Weaver, who was very underrated. Still, he did have quite a few losses by the time he faced Holmes. Can you imagine what would happen if Vitali or Wlad took on a guy with 9 losses???

    A convincing argument could be made that Vitali has faced comparable - perhaps even better - opposition. Wlad certainly has.
     
  15. philby

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    *sigh*:tired