Is Vitali Klitschko an ATG?

No he hasn't beaten anyone to make him an ATG. His greatest claim to fame is his loss to Lennox Lewis.

 

1. Yes, Bowe was stationary against Golota. He was always pretty lumbering.

2. Vitali can certainly clinch and fight off the backfoot.

3. Bowe wasn't bringing any real pressure in the Golota fights except widly tumbling forward with wild right hands. The only time he got in the fights is when Golota would quit jabbing...pretty much like Holyfield as I've done said. Golota could just clinch when he wanted to where as Evander couldn't. Sorry, don't think there's anywhere else this can go.

 

1. I don't make numbered lists, there's a lot of arbitrary rules here and I find it better to research, breakdown, and compare fighters then to shove them into lists. So you could say I work in a head-to-head sense.

2. A fighter can't be considered an "All Time Great" until his career is over. So, theoretically, if his career ended now? No, he's proven to be a dominant champ against some of the most boring opposition. I'll have to see his whole career, and as far as I'm aware Vitali's got a couple of fights in him. He's probably going to fight David Haye in attempt to achieve their dual unified championships. If Vitali beats Haye, I wouldn't be surprised if he retires.

Final notes and all that: Technically, him and his brother are fairly sound fighters (jab, defense, footwork). Wladmir has a much better championship run shaping up here then his older brother's and I look forward to his match with Eddie Chambers (pending an active Chambers shows up, if the Povetkin version of Chambers shows up you might as well watch Vitali fight Kevin Johnson again). If it ever came down to it, I'd consider Wladmir over considering Vitali. That's based on accomplishments. Head-to-head, if both brothers ever fought, I'd take Vitali.

 

No because of his opposition and its not his fault he has foght the best around and begged Lewis for a rematch...other than injuries this man has never been behind in a fight and I think he spells trouble for any heavy ATG, Lets face it Ali never had to fight a quality big man like Vitali,they were not around in fact who has but in all fairness Vitali never had to fight a quality smaller Heavy like Louis,Ali, Marciano...the 4 yrs off hurt him because he would have cleaned up on Rahman,Toney and the rest and it would have added to his legasy. In all fairness if we put Ali on a pedistle for coming back after 2 1/2 years we have to give Vitali credit for coming back after almost 4 years at an older age and dominating. Other than a bad cut the guy has not shown any weakness.

 

It's pretty impressive that Bowe could cut off the ring against Golota while being stationary.

So can a lot of boxers. That doesn't make them the same as Jose Luis Gonzalez.

Here's a new angle: who is Vitali's best win?

 

That argument doesn't add up.

Where did the very first ATGs come from?

 

I'd pick Wlad actually.

 

No. I do rate Vitali a lot in terms of ability at his best, but his resume is just so far short of ATG standard that I can't actually believe so many people in this forum voted yes. Seriously shocked.

 

-"I was a STATIONARY target."-Riddick Bowe on his first fight with Golota and things certainly didn't change in the rematch.

-:roll:

-Sanders was for the vacated Ring Belt and recognition as the number one heavy.

 

If he was a stationary target, he was only so stationary as to be able to cut the ring off on Golota and as we both know Golota was a better mover than Vitali. The plain fact is, Vitali isn't going to be able to keep Bowe on the outside.

Would you say Corrie Sanders was a great heavyweight?

 

In a sport consisting of over 100 years of competitors, I don't think its feasible for Vitali Klitschko to be considered as an all time great.

 

-Your embaressing yourself, let it go.

-Flawed and inconsistent but always a dangerous puncher, good foot work, fast hands, very good at setting traps and countering. Certianly not a great heavyweight, and I don't really care to argue for Vitali's resume..I believe his legacy to be solid and nothing more.

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Completely agree