Is Vitali Klitschko in the Top 10 H2H ?

I dont give a **** what you "see", each man I listed has a far more impressive resume than either Klitschko and each man has a huge shot at beating them

 

these guys are hideously over rated. look at the guys they've beaten, the condition they come into the ring in (fat) and then how they fight (most haven't tried). they are very good, but think of how the greats would do against the guys they've fought. I'm thinking quick blowouts for a lot of them.

 

h2h yes, not p4p. He is so big yeah he would give most guys in history a hard fight. Frazier would not beat a Klitchko. Can you imagine Floyd Patterson vs. Vitali? Probably wouldn't go 3 or 4 rounds.

 

I agree top ten head to head, too much is made of his lack of infighting skills all fighters have a weekness and his infighting is not enough to keep him out of the top ten Lewis could even be had to head no.one so to judge Vitali on that fight is unfair especially as he won four of six rounds.

 

I think the Chisora fight hurt this idea that Vitali is some H2H monster. It was a fight he won fairly easily on the cards but every round was tough - so tough that we got the usual injury excuse and then a mention of a rematch. This is against a guy who was nearly shut out against Tyson Fury, had less than 20 amateur fights and 17 pro fights.

Vitali, on the other hand, was highly praised after the Adamek win and many saw him as being near his prime.

Chisora has a style that should be easy for Vitali. He's not particular good at anything and he is lacking power, stamina and fight experience and yet he was still able to test Vitali. Had Chisora been more experienced, I think he'd have won that fight which doesn't say a lot about Vitali.

Fans tend to rate guys with big punches and a good chin higher H2H than they deserve. Vitali hits hard and has an excellent chin but he isn't a great fighter, based on his resume or how he'd far against other elite heavyweights.

 

If his recent performances went along with that, I'd agree. However, he looked great against Adamek and completely dominated a guy who was seen as a legit threat. Adamek was probably the third or fourth best in the world at the time and would be one of Vitali's top 5 wins.

Considering how impressive he was against Adamek, I don't buy into this argument that his age has caught up with him. When guys age overnight, it's usually due to a tough fight and Vitali hasn't been in a tough fight since Lewis, so I don't think you can say that about Vitali either. According to Vitali himself, he's feeling great in training and seems to be over all his injury woes.

Maybe it's a bit harsh. I just don't think Vitali's age is an excuse for such a average performance. I think Chisora showed up flaws that have always been there and aren't exactly hard to find out.

 

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I put very little stock in age though, so maybe that's where we differ. I don't think the fact Vitali is 40 enhances his wins or excuses his poor performances in any way. Age is just a number and nothing more.

 

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Certainly.

 

Please get off esb, you piece of Klitlicking scum

 

No u didnt make any kind of reasonable godamn argument, u made an argument that you and all other Klitlickers would agree with, which is that the Klitschkos are big n tall

Well there is more to boxing than size, and if u cant see how greats like the guys i listed could beat Vitali than u should stop watching boxing and find another sport