Is Vitali Klitscko much better than Joe Louis?

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  1. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    You don't seem to realise that a man can have both attributes :bash:

    So he survived a barrage of punches that would knock out most heavyweights? :yikes: OMG, DinoNutbag just deconstructed his own argument!!!!! :loel:So long ...
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    oops, I guess not.

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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Vitali's ring IQ? LoL.

    Ziko Merovic proved he had a higher ring IQ than Vitali. So did many other who fought Lewis. Even Chris Byrd had a better ring IQ than Vitali.

    Louis wrote the book on how to box. Pulling back in straight lines is not ring intelligence. Throwing clubbing shots and jabs from the waist up is not ring intelligence. Those are technical flaws .
    A trainer will tell his student to watch Joe Louis. No trainer is going to tell somebody to watch Vitali.

    Since when was Vitali 'relentless' ?? That was never his style. He fought patiently from the outside cos he knew he was no good up close.

    Go watch the man before you pick him to beat arguably the best HW of all time.
     
  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LOL who the **** is Ziko Merovic if you are going to troll at least have the respect to get the guys name correct.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You specifically said CHIN. An 'ATG chin' you said. Nowhere did you say ATG defence. Two totally different factors which you seem to be unable to differentiate:facepalm:
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Why? I don't got time for that
     
  6. AliMyths&Legends

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    That is your opinion. Vitali does have have very good ring IQ as proven by fighting so many different styles, and managing to find a way to outbox every single one of them. I personally think that shows pretty exceptional ring IQ, and one of the many reasons Vitali would outbox and eventually stop Louis.
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Vitali beat only ONE style his whole career. Beating D level guys like Peter and Arroela does not mean you have a greater ring IQ than one of the most textbook perfect boxers of all time.

    Chris Byrd and Lewis proved he had a very low ring IQ . Since they were the best guys he faced you can only judge his ring IQ off those fights.
     
  8. AliMyths&Legends

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    Chris Byrd and Lewis did prove he had a very high ring IQ, because he was outboxing both of them. Which is proof and not counter proof of a very high ring IQ.
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Zab Judah out boxed Mayweather for 5 straight rounds . Does that mean Judah had a higher ring IQ than Mayweather.

    Byrd fought to a strategy and won by that strategy , therefor his Ring IQ was higher than Vitali's who was looking like a buffoon from the second round on.

    How did the Lewis fight prove he had a high Ring IQ?
     
  10. AliMyths&Legends

    AliMyths&Legends Active Member banned Full Member

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    Chris Byrd's ring strategy was to hope Vitali tor his rotator cuff? Lol!
    He outboxed both of them which proves his ring IQ I'm afraid. You're being very weird about this.
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Byrds strategy was to wear him out and come on strong in the later rounds. It worked out better than he ever could have imagined.
    Vitali out boxed neither Byrd or Lewis. He lost both those fights. With a higher ring IQ he could have adapted in both situations and won.
    Im not being weird. You're simply a clown.
     
  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Liquid Fire was booted recently. Im guessing this guy is him.
     
  13. AliMyths&Legends

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    Even if Bryd won every other round he would of lost the fight because he was 5 rounds behind when the fight was stopped, because of a torn rotator cuff, so Byrd's strategy failed.
    Vitali outboxed Lewis, Byrd and every single fighter with a wide variety of styles. Which proves Vitali's high ring IQ, and is one of the reason Vitali would outbox Louis.
     
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  14. On The Money

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    The eternal champion would control and knock the coke head spark out.
     
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  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    How dafuk did it fail when he won the fight? Do you understand that Vitali lost? And he began to lose after 5 rounds? Winning 4 rounds isn't out boxing anybody. Loads of people sustain injuries and still find a way to win.
    Its called having adaptability and high ring intelligence. Vitali ranks very low in those departments. Ike Ibeauchi proved how low level Vitali's skills were. Byrd lay on the ropes and played with him from the opening bell.
    Byrd had the higher Ring IQ and thats just a fact and blatantly obvious to any objective observer.

    Vitali only ever beat one style. You are simply wrong. Just like you were wrong when you called him a relentless pressure fighter.
    I get that you're an alt troll you will just repeat the same chit over and over again so im done with you.