Is Vitali the ATG number 1 heavyweight?

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  1. Duscle

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    Lol Vital the coward gave up against Byrd. He is not even in the top 50.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

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  3. George Crowcroft

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    Lol
     
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  4. Dance84

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    Could be maybe. Top 10 for me
     
  5. Jimbo1

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    Name me the 210 to 215lb 6.2 foot fighter that has 4 to 5 plus 6.5 foot 240lbs fighters on his resume?
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    Muhammad Ali.
    Joe Louis.

    Now name me the guys who Lewis, Klitschko's and Bowe beat to say they "destroy" Holmes, Ali and Louis.
     
  7. reckless

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    Has any 6'2 boxer in the last 20 years made even one defence of a world championship against a significantly bigger boxer?
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    Byrd signed with Don King 3 years after he beat Vitali. He wasn't on on the scene when Vitali fought Byrd in 2000. Byrd vs Vitali and Byrd vs Wlad I was promoted entirely by Universum.

    You're telling lies , not facts..Vitali had a rematch contract over Byrd , but Byrd claimed they made him fight Wlad instead while Vitali fought Timmo Hoffman.
    Why didn't Vitali rematch Byrd?

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    Byrd was controlled by Universum when he signed to fight Vitali in 2000. Don King was not involved. . Whats your excuse going to be now?
     
  9. Jimbo1

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    Bro

    Between them they have 1! buddy baer.

    Have you seen there boxrec records? Most of Louis oppents are below 200 Alis are below 210.

    Ali and Louis outweighed and outtalled there opponents thats why they were successful.

    What lightheavyweights today could be successful at heavyweight? Most cruisers don't even bother trying. Despite heavyweight being the most lucrative Division?
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    Lol.
    Ernie Terrel, Joe Bugner and Chuck Wepner for Ali.

    Louis has Carnera, Baer and Simon.
    Ok then. Ignored. Clown.
     
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  12. Jimbo1

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    Usyk might be he's something we haven't seen before.

    His skillset and engine are next level. He can definitely beat some of guys and become a world champion but can he make 10 title defense's against all these younger monsters coming up?

    I doubt it would loved to be proven wrong
     
  13. reckless

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    Bellew managed to land quite a few shots on Usyk, if that had been Wilder or Joshua it would be lights out.

    Usyk is 32 and has had one fight at heavyweight in which he was far from impressive.
     
  14. reckless

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    The difference is that the likes of Lewis, Wlad, Vitali, Joshua and Wilder are athletic and have impressive hand speed. They are not lumbering giants with concrete in their boots.

    Joe Louis struggled with moving opponents and he admitted it himself. How would he have done against the Joshua from last night who not only had better footwork than himself but is also much bigger.
     
  15. On The Money

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    Galento was the Ruiz of his day, at least Louis didn't need a rematch to deal with him.

    On Vits, h2h you can make a strong case given his pretty unique stats, not really too close to atg#1 tho.