Is Wach a bigger threat than Haye?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Meow, Nov 8, 2012.


  1. Meow

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    I think when Wlad won't be able to use his reach advantage it will play a much bigger threat than a fast and slick fighter.

    By the way: This isn't asking if Wach is better than Haye. Styles make fights.
     
  2. Jim Bowen

    Jim Bowen MARVELOUS Full Member

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    I wouldn't have thought so. However I don't think either were a considerable threat, especially the way Payday Haye went about his business.
     
  3. Meow

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    This also takes Haye's performance against large guys into account (His poor performance against Valuev).
     
  4. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well Haye lost almsot every round and never came close to winning

    Wach will probably get stopped after losing every round

    Wlad dominated Haye but it wasnt easy, he had to fight an alert fight had to move a lot and try to pin down a mobile and quick Haye and took a few big punches

    Wach presents some danger but i dont think Wlad will have the difficulty in finding the target he did vs Haye and wont have to use the same amount of movement

    Wach probably hits harder and his dimensions provide an issue that Haye doesnnt

    i think at the end of the day Wach will just get overwhelmed and stopped by Wlad in the first 6 or 7 rounds
     
  5. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    wach is not better than haye...its just because hes an actuall superheavyweight he should be more durable hit harder be stronger and be able to get on the inside which wlad wont be used to as its been a while since hes fought a stronger,taller man..i think he could cause wlad more problems than haye for sure..

    tho i think haye out boxes wach to a ud.. its just one of those things..

    but my thoughts are all depending on how wach takes a shot from a decent fighter...
     
  6. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this isnt the first big guy he fought

    McCline Austin Thompson Jefferson were all big guys and outside Thompson 1 he won them all very easily

    and Thompson was a southpaw and that seemed to be the real problem

    small guys like Iggy and Haye may not have had the offense to give him the struggles but certainly made themselves mobile, small, hard to hit targets and they took very small amounts of punishment compared to the bigger guys Wlad fought

    The big men may equal his size but thats about it
     
  7. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Wach is a pretty appalling fighter
     
  8. Box84

    Box84 Active Member Full Member

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    Thank you! I thought I was going crazy. I don't expect Wach to last more than 3 or 4 rounds. He is appalling. Wlads worst opponent in many years. I will be truly shocked if he is at all competitive.
     
  9. Robney

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    theoretically... no way. practically, maybe.
    Haye didn't really try to win, he was trying not to get KO'd and maybe land a lucky shot while he was at it.

    I really believe Wach is there to win, but in reality is a level below Haye.
     
  10. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** sake not you aswell...wach is no where near as bad as people are making him out to be.

    its funny how guys see a few video clips and go oh hes slow blah blah blah..

    thats not the case..hes what 6.7 6.8?hes as fast as a man that size is going to be and he is a completly different anaimal to the kind of fighter haye is...he has different tools which he can use..

    time to stop this shite talking guys it really is..
     
  11. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    haye as good as he is had no chance to win..he wasnt quick enough,strong enough or hit hard enough..wach hits hard enough is strong enough he is slow compared to haye but hes a super heavy so he should be durable enough to take shots and get inside and land his own..wach should give wlad problems ive no doubt..wlad still wins tho..
     
  12. Meow

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    Huh? Wach is worse than Mormeck? Wach has won his last 7 fights by KO and has dominated every match he's been in.
     
  13. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is he BIGGER? For sure :)
    Is he harder? Probably; size and power counts a lot in HWs, plus his chin seems not less than solid (no pun intended), and he is serious and motivated; he seems really determined in becoming world champion, not just in thrash talking; his recent training sessions has shown a lot of improvements; he is a ****ing giant, and he doesn't seems a coward; he has enough power to end it all with two clean punches.
     
  14. irishny

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    Wow, he dominated a past prime 300 lbs Kevin McBride, and ehhh Tye Fields, and that guy ya know...oh whats his name... he works at that bar I used to go to...

    Anyway, yeah, Wach...BIG threat.

    Mormeck actually has a better resume at heavyweight...as odd as that is to say!
     
  15. p.falk

    p.falk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whether or not Wach will give an appalling performance against Wlad.... Haye DID give an appalling performance.