Is Ward gutless for not agreeing to a rematch?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 3rdegree, Feb 5, 2017.


Ward is behaving like a delusional coward

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  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Ward took the Kovalev fight, a fight many thought he wouldn't take. Don't act like you have amnesia! People were making claims that Ward would find a way out of the fight. Instead, Ward proved his detractors wrong and fought Kovalev! He got back up after the knock down and weathered the storm and made a come back, a come back that none of Kovalev's opponents ever did. Ward made it a close fight and did show a warriors heart. If you honestly believe ward is a coward then you don't know boxing. You don't like Ward and never will. You lack any semblance of integrity and instead of showing Ward any type of respect or give him any credit, you fools decide to go the opposite route and trash him even more. Pathetic! I believed Ward was going to win, based on what I seen both men do in the ring. From what I saw , I thought Ward could do more in there than Kovalev. Immediately after the fight I came on here and said that I believed Kov won. I have no qualms in doing so. I have no qualms admitting that I got it wrong but, you'll be hard pressed to find me trash a fighter for any reason, especially because I don't like them. If a man jumps in the ring and shows his mettle then he should get respect. Ward has done this throughout his entire career. You have the nerve to use the fact that he had contractual disputes to criticize him? You're a joke! You know very well that if it was you in Wards place you probably would have conducted yourself the same way. Oh wait! I forgot, you're BCS8, You would probably be fighting heavyweight after moving up from 168.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    any man who gets n the ring with kovalev is the opposite of gutless.

    COnsider here, we got KOvalev, whom the other LHW titlists are giving a wide berth, and with good reason, hes killed a guy in the ring. Now along comes the smaller guy from the division BELOW to fight him, and he gets accused of being gutless for going even stevens with him?
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    How can a fight you admit could have fairly been called a draw be a 'complete robbery' when the judges gave it to Ward by one round? All they had to do was judge a single round the other way and it would have been a UD for Kovalev. Would you then have said they'd robbed Ward of a draw?

    Comedy gold...
     
  4. BCS8

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    Wow, methinks you protest too much.

    Ward thought that he could win against Kovalev, which is why he took the fight.

    But now, after he got whooped the first time, he knows that he is going to lose the rematch too.

    THAT is why he's humming and hawing about the rematch. Truth be told, I'm almost certain that he's going to 'retire' rather than stick to his word and rematch Kovalev. A real WARRIOR would have gone up to Sergei and said straight to his face "I think I won, but the fight was really close and I don't feel it's right taking a man's belts if its not clear who the winner is. Give me a rematch." I'd be hanging off his nuts if he'd done that.

    Instead, he's acting like a big baby.:llorona:
     
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  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    You can be sure to differentiate between the two relations, albeit inside the ring he is a warrior, outside of the ring, dealing with life and it's situational circumstances he is a cowardly individual.

    Anyone can be good at their job, it is their job, but then they have their outside personality away from that job, in how they conduct themselves day to day with other people.

    It's not as simple to say ''look how brave he is for doing that job, he is an exceptional well balanced human being''/

    There have been many great fighters who were great couragious athletes inside the ring, yet as soon as they stepped outside of they become either drug fiends, wife beaters, murderers or ped abusers who were indeed cowardly gutless and despicable specimens.

    You cannot then tell me it is unfair to judge their character on those basis simply because they make the decision to lace a pair of gloves and do they the one job that they only know how to do well.
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    uhhhh. so putting your life on the line is not brave yeh?



    hes not claiming hes mother theresa. i think he said hes brave.

    u get in the ring with kovalev then. tell us its not brave afterwards if you are still alive
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you called him out for -

    1. ducking at smw. he then unified the smw title
    2. facing only smw. He then beat the number 1 LHW.
    3. staying in smw, before he then moved to LHW.
    4. fighting warm up fights at LHW. He then fought and went on equal footing with the number 1 LHW.

    what will you call ward out for when the rematch is over? no duobt you will still be doing it in a few years time. But surely AT SOME POINT, you must realise you are wrong, yeh?
     
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  8. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    I never disputed that he wasn't brave. Read again. You can even find a thread of mine, where I have praised Ward's resolve in the match.

    I'm merely proposing the idea that there is a difference between being brave to step in the ring with an opponent and being brave outside of the ring. Although I believe someone who believes themselves to be p4p should be doing stepping in the ring with the best without us having to blow smoke up their bums.

    Outside of the ring I believe it is reasonable to say that Ward is a cowardly personality as he does not honour his word and refuses to be honest when people ask him difficult questions.
     
  9. HerolGee

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    theres different types of bravery certainly. But you cant claim a man who get sin the ring is a coward. I dont think you would refer to a firefighter as a coward just cos he cant keep up with his alimony. why special circumstance with ward ALONE?



    , he just did, without your smoke thing (keep your own habits to yourself mate).
    ANd you are reverse reasoning it, hes p4p BECAUSE he keeps doing it.
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    There are no special circumstances. The way Ward has conducted himself has been an utter disgrace. When prior to the contractual stipulations were agreed that a rematch would take place, without exception.

    Ward has a penchant for not honouring these type of clauses and pretending he does not have to abide by the law.
     
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  11. Braindamage

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    None of your post has anything to do with ward! What has Ward done outside the ring that justifies you or anyone else calling him a coward? So he's a tough negotiator, he tries to get what he wants in contracts from both fighters and promoters? Really!!! That's what makes him a coward? You got to give me something else in order for me to call the man a coward!
     
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  12. Braindamage

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    Yeah, because fighters always go up to the guy they just fought and exclaim that they won right in their face! LOL Any little thing to discredit Ward! So now because he didn't start talking about the rematch he's going to retire and he's a coward for doing so. It's not uncommon for fighters to talk about retiring, Pac has been talking about that for some time now. Nothing new really. For all we know, Ward may be using retirement as a negotiating tool. He knows Kov wants a rematch and just like in any relationship, the one that cares the least garners the most power. Ask yourself this, who cares about the rematch more? You already know the answer! Ward has the most power in the rematch situation and will use the power to control Kovalev into getting the short end of the money again. Kov won't dictate a single thing. Ward will tell Kov what gloves to wear, where the fight is going to take place, when the fight will take place, who the ref is going to be and how much Kov will be paid. Trust me, Ward will take the rematch, he's not scared of Kov.

    And for the record, I don't know of too many fighters that take fights they believe they are going to lose! SMH
     
  13. HerolGee

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    I've not claimed there were. Why did you pretend I had said there were special circumstances - is it because that pretence allows you to fictionalise a comeback "there are no special circumstances" . poor show mate.



    cos you say so? not because of what he does. thats ok then.
     
  14. Sephiroth Rising 7

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    Do you not recall what you have written moments ago? Are you genuinely ******ed? If so, then please accept my sincere apology.

    You asked me questioned concerning special circumstances and I duly responded. That is what occurs during a conversation, may I add.

    Just to refresh your memory if that is indeed possible, I've even highlighted it in bold so it is even easier for you to focus.

     
  15. HerolGee

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    why you chasing this "i claimed ward has special circumstances". drop it.

    Its YOU who is targeting Ward. YOU need to explain your taergeting him.