Is Ward lowballing Rodriguez?

If your numbers are correct than 2.35M to Ward and 800K to Rodriguez sounds fair.

Rodriguez should jump at the opportunity rather than probably looking at how easy his Monaco Million was compared to having to face Ward. But if he wins he enters the P4P list like that, so I don't see why he wouldn't do it and theoretically Ward is in the worst possible spot of his career when it comes to injury/layoff.

 

Don't know much about Rodriguez but there's never been a better time to try and beat Andre Ward.

 

Rodriguez can beat him I reckon. He's a ver good boxer.

 

can u post the link ?

The offer is fair IMO. Rodriguez should accept it.

 

:yep:deal

and the fight should be made outside of Oakland. :yep

 

Yes he is. The $800,000 isn't the number being offered to Rodriguez, but the total pot being offered to DiBella and Rodriguez for essentially no copromotion, as Ward wants to keep all of the gate, the rights, and the sponsorships (probably at least another ~1 million) for himself as well. This would be a fair offer if they split the total pot along the lines of the license fee, but they're not.

 

Andre Ward is no warrior, he demands home advantage for every fight.

 

Rodriguez doesn't have a massive fan base (I can tell you for damn sure that nobody from here in his own home state knows his name; it takes a lot for a boxer to achieve word-of-mouth buzz around here, where boxing is sadly pretty dead...) or much recent exposure on any major US television outlets, being a couple of years removed from his ShoBox days and having shadowed himself in relative obscurity with that "Monte Carlo Million Dollar Super Four" tourney.

He also has become much less fan-friendly over time, latest highlight-reel worthy result notwithstanding. The semifinal of the Super Four between he and Maderna stunk, and I didn't think it was possible for Maderna to be involved in anything boring. He managed to make for unpleasant viewing when dominating a made-to-order Jason Escalera in an HBO BAD main event, completely upstaged by Darchinyan vs. Del Valle in the co-feature. He also didn't exactly raise the roof when he chose to outbox Donovan George instead of slugging as expected. He blatantly lost to but received a mind-boggling shutout gift over Will Rosinsky. Really it's been over two years since he looked even vaguely impressive or marketable - again, the quick disposal of Grachev notwithstanding.

He just got ridiculously overpaid for the Super Four, without ever needing to set foot in the ring with the one actual threat participating. (Erdei).

There really is no ground for him to be asking for any more than what he is being offered.

 

You also have to look at the outcome of the fight. Rodriguez will probably face a boring shutout were he will be dominated. His stock will be close to zero after the fight. He could probably make more money with his next three fights, knocking at the door of a title, by avoiding a fight with Ward.

Ward really is not an apealing fighter to fight.

 

To add to this, I don't think Ward necessarily has the leverage he sees himself as possessing. HBO was willing to overpay for this fight, but they also appear to have no interest in giving Ward anywhere near the amount of money he wants to fight anyone else. Ward may be the only guy Rodriguez can get $800k (less than that in reality and less than he made in Monte Carlo given Ward's wanting to keep everything else for himself and not co-promote), but Rodriguez seems to be the only guy who can apparently guarantee Ward both a 7-figure purse and an actual HBO date.

 

At least he never quit on his stool or got laid out by a member of the PGA:rofl

 

800k is perfectly reasonable given Rodriguez recent paydays.

 

Ward just doens't have a fan friendly style or a large fan base.

Roddy Piper from the movie 'They Live' is on the Alex Jones show now.