You're comparing apples to oranges troll. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt Dawson state out of his mouth that he could make 168?? SO why are you trying to compare 2 different situations...Hopkins didnt offer to come down in weight so you seriously dont a leg to stand on...I find it comical that you're going to the extreme of calling Ward a coward when he just simply accepted Dawson challenge. Its quite sad that you have to make **** up to try to slander somebody! I bet you feel like you accomplished something with this nonsense! Carry on troll!:good
Yes a troll, when did a troll become someone that is making a valid point? I am expressing my opinion. Both scenerios were identical were they not? The top LHW called out the top SMW. Instead in Ward's situation, he milked it and weight drained the dude. Whereas Calzaghe accepted and moved up and made his point. This is why people will remember Calzaghe's legacy in years to come. :good Waits for reply containing the word troll. atsch
And When you get through trolling...Ward is close to making Calzaghe irrelavent...I can see why you're trying to belittle Ward. Carry on troll!:good
I think you're trolling. What an idiotic statement. Is Ward going to defend his belt for 10 years? Tell me how Ward going to get the LHW Ring Belt and defend his SMW belt for these 10 years? Good luck my friend..... :roll:
Easily already outshined Calslappy. Imagine how much further he will exceed Joe over the next couple of years.
Exceeded Joe, I bet he knew deep inside he could beat Joe. So much he went and called him out knowing he was 40 and past it? Why did he not fight him in his prime? Do you know something I don't? :rofl [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/9/9/3305393/andre-wards-next-fight-trainer-team-calls-out-joe-calzaghe-comeback-boxing-news[/url]
Why did Joe avoid anyone with a pulse when in his prime? Poor Calslappy fans got to brag about him for only a couple of years before he got put to shame with Wards resume.
I think it was disappointing for boxing that Ward-Dawson was made at 168. Traditionally a champion in one class moves up to challenge the champion above him in the higher weight class. When the larger champion shrinks down to challenge the small guy, the status of the fight is reduced too. It becomes a lot less meaningful. And then if the 'shrunken big guy' loses to the champ beneath him at the lower weight, what has really been achieved ?
I'll be whatever your simple minded ass call me! Still doesnt erase the fact that you're calling a guy that accepted another man's challenge a coward...Yet I'm the troll?:rofl:rofl:rofl It doesnt matter if he defends his belt for another 10 years or not...its about who he fights which is gonna get him in the ATG status...With the amount of paper titles out here now a days...Belts and title defenses really dont mean jack ****! Its all about who you fight. If you're gonna try to belittle someone, at least come with something better than this.
:yep Your right its about who you fight? Eubank, Lacy, Hopkins, Jones, Kessler. :thumbsup Oh and if you want to go on who faught who. Take a look at Calzaghe vs Bika and feel free to compare against Ward vs Bika....:yep
I rather like him, hes a great fighter. But I just think his fans are becoming a younger generation of *****s and *******s.
atsch By doing what? Wards biggest win is a past best, rusty, unwell double vision suffering fighter that Calzaghe took the 0 of. How has Ward done anything close to Calzaghe? This content is protected This content is protected Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title. This content is protected 1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten? 2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought? Lets read the answers ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This content is protected Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe Froch.....................................Kessler This content is protected (Kessler beat Froch) Kessler...................................Eubank This content is protected Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW) This content is protected Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW) This content is protected Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ) This content is protected (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while) Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green) This content is protected Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer) This content is protected Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika This content is protected (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time) Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs) This content is protected Then include the This content is protected win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put This content is protected ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that. Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions
Explain how? This content is protected This content is protected Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title. This content is protected 1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten? 2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought? Lets read the answers ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This content is protected Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe Froch.....................................Kessler This content is protected (Kessler beat Froch) Kessler...................................Eubank This content is protected Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW) This content is protected Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW) This content is protected Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ) This content is protected (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while) Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green) This content is protected Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer) This content is protected Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika This content is protected (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time) Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs) This content is protected Then include the This content is protected win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put This content is protected ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that. Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions