Is Ward scared to move up to light heavyweight?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by The Bane, Jan 7, 2013.


  1. Pound4PoundG

    Pound4PoundG Guest

    lol your a joker! Ward is 10 times the fighter Calzaghe was simply for winning the super 6. Thats better opposition than Calzaghe would dream of facing. And the answer to your question is no hes not scared of moving up as hes already beaten the best the LHW division had to offer.
     
  2. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's won every round of every professional fight. He's not afraid, the money's right, he's there.
     
  3. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    there is actually more fights for Ward at 160 than 175
     
  4. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    this.And cleverly is going to get ripped apart by ward.
    Better for him to avoid him when ward comes to lhw.
     
  5. irishny

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    Pavlik is a shot bum?:huh
     
  6. MUFC

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    This forum is ******ed.
    Clev would get schooled by Ward.
    Ward should have faced Dawson at 175-a drained fighter always taints a win-note Pacs criticism.
    Calzaghe v Ward-different era, one very good breakdown posted yet people cba reading it-so wheres the point in debating then?
    Calzaghe was an excellent boxer.
    Ward is an excellent boxer.
    Calzaghe got quite chinny. Ward used his head too much-for every argument there is a counter and they are pointless as they dont change the above facts that they are the most talented in their division.
    Ward will beat Froch (who is without doubt a warrior, just not as 'cute' as Ward in terms of tactics) anywhere, most people agree on this, but its easy to understand why we get sick of him refusing to travel.

    The main difference between Ward and Calzaghe is in this era a super 6 was made,Ward wasnt tipped fave for it. If that had been made in Calzaghes era then we could maybe compare (Joe would not have been outright fave either and we can argue all day long about who wins that, obv including Jones, Hopkins, Calzaghe)
     
  7. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    I'm not completely sold on Ward. He hits like a girl and goes low when required. But you cant blame him for wanting to wait before moving up in weight. Once a boxer goes up, it is very difficult to come back down. He can clear out SMW in particular rematch Kessler and Dirrell.
     
  8. simon850

    simon850 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't tarnish us all with the same brush.

    Ward ain't scared of moving up to LHW. He just wanted to clean out his division and have a couple defenses.
     
  9. MUFC

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  10. TheJuggernaut

    TheJuggernaut Hitchslap Full Member

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    Thanks for setting us all straight
     
  11. MUFC

    MUFC Guest

    What? Dont you like balanced, reasonable opinions?

    If you were not being sarcastic then fair enough but quite hard to tell tbh
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You read it dummy, then found that you couldnt counter it
    You did respond to it, forgotten already? :patsch
    Just found that you couldnt answer to it, like you couldnt answer to the other post.
    We can call you delusional fanboy #......

    Wards best win in that is a Calzaghe leftover in Kessler, but lets look at it, then he fought Green as shown a lesser win than many of Calzaghes and who got KOd by old G Johnson who has lost to many of the previous SMW era, Bika, another Calzaghe leftover, Abraham on a run of 2 S6 losses, and then Froch coming off a Mdec over old Johnson, which is a nothing win.
    In fact to tell you how the era has changed fro the worse. Froch comes into Ward off the back of beating old G Johnson by Mdec, when sheika came in to challenge Calzaghe after beating prime G Johnson.

    Still nobody can counter this
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    Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title.
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    1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten?
    2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought?


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    Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe
    Froch.....................................Kessler
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    (Kessler beat Froch)

    Kessler...................................Eubank
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    Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW)
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    Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW)
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    Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ)
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    (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while)

    Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green)
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    Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer)
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    Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika
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    (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time)

    Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs)
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    Then include the
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    win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put
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    Try and answer the questions, then give me the answers

    No he hasnt you fool. He only beat Froch by 2 points on the official cards. But I suppose you think when he was doing the chicken dance and going to the floor against Boone, he must have won that round also :patsch
     
  13. TheJuggernaut

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    I responded to the first post you stupid cocksucker

    Not the book you posted to my first response
     
  14. PolishPummler

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    Rational posters need not apply.
     
  15. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have to admit, its a legit question.