Is weight bullying real? How should it affect a boxer's reputation?

Broner vs Eloy Perez

 

It definitely is a thing. They need to start doing same day weigh ins.

 

No, it doesn't.

So it doesn't affect the reputation.

 

Or a fighter cannot gain more than 10 lbs after official weigh in. Weight gets taken 30 minutes before ring walk. If they fail, they are deducted a point for every 1/2 pound over.

 

It's definitely a thing.

It's a bit like PED use in the sense that if too many are already doing it, everyone else has to in order to not be at a disadvantage... And there will always be some that abuse it more than others.

Unlike PEDs, there's no concerted effort invested in doing anything about it to ensure fair play by the safest means possible.
Yes fighting is inherently dangerous, but forcing everyone to dehydrate to make weight against guys their own size (or to take PEDs to be able to train as well and be competitive) is the wrong level playing field.


It's good that fighters are starting to spotlight it - in some cases in particular it's really taking the mickey

 

Or just weigh in on the day and ban them from fighting at the weight again if they're more than 5 or 10 over on fightnight (draw the exact line wherever you see fit)...
Forcing them to go and fight at the weight they're supposed to be at.

 

Crooked Promoters let the A side in fights exploit this

 

Made up term used by keyboard warriors against a guy they don't like. I don't think I've ever seen a fighter or trainer use it.

They make weight they make weight. If you want to change weigh in times or rehydration limits or have 30 day weigh ins then make changes.

 

There is no such thing as weight bullying. It's the stupidest fracking thing I've ever heard on this forum. I mean, there's weight-cheating that can turn into a nightmare, if you ask men like Joey Gamache. But you oddly don't hear people leveling accusations of weight bullying at guys like Arturo Gatti. You hear it against guys like Crawford. 'Like' is a funny word. It can mean anything.

 

I find it funny how fans are demanding Canelo fight Benavidez, many of the same people accuse other fighters like Haney of weight bullying. Many of these same people who say Canelo needs to fight Benavidez, are the same people who constantly whined about how big of a weight bully they thought Canelo was at lighter weights. I mean, I want to see Canelo fight Benavidez just as much as anyone, but there's probably never been a more glaring example of a weight bully than Benavidez. A guy who literally moved up to Light Heavyweight because he's outgrown the weight class but says he would only return to 168 to fight Canelo.

The double standards amongst fans are rather humorous, especially how it pertains to Canelo and Benavidez. Fans complained about how big Canelo towards the end of his run at 154 (and he was) Canelo does what they want, moves up to 160, fights GGG the guy they wanted him to fight and said he was ducking. Fights him not once, not twice but three times, against most fan predictions is wildly successful in those matches, yet some fans refuse to give him credit. First it's weight bullying, then it's rigged judging, then he moves up to 168, cleans out the entire division, and now he's accused of ducking a guy who lost his title twice, once for drugs and the other for not making weight, and now is running off to Light Heavyweight but wants to come back down to 168 to challenge for Undisputed, a guy who refused to enforce his mandatory. It's hilarious, and lets say Canelo defends against Benavidez and Benavidez wins, would Benavidez even defend his Undisputed Titles? Why do we want a guy to challenge for titles in a weight class that he has no interest in staying in and already was stripped of titles in that weight class twice before? It's one thing to want to see the fight, and to want Canelo to fight the most difficult fight out there. That I get, but Canelo has no obligation to fight him given Benavidez actions.

 

I never used to think it was. I thought if you made the weight you made the weight until I saw a lot of posts on here and it made me take a deep dive on the subject as I am heavily involved in nutrition and fitness and for the life of me I can't figure out how guys like Devin Haney can legally put on 11KG's in less than two days. So it wasn't until I took note on how much some of these fighters are actually gaining between the weigh in and the fight. What I have noticed is that it is a lot of American fighters that do this more than anyone else.

 

Amanda Serrano is claiming to be THREE WEIGHT CLASSES lighter than Katie Taylor. Their upcoming fight is taking place one weight class up. It's bull****. Serrano has been cutting weight her whole career.

 

Here's the thing, yes there are weight bullies by the way people on this site define it. My issue is with the reaction to it and the resentment and vitriol toward the boxers who do it. To me, this is one of the best examples of the saying "Don't hate the player, hate the game.".

Guys like Haney and Spence and others aren't cheating and aren't breaking any rules. Props to them for taking advantage of the situation. It's the rules that suck and I really wish they would change them because it does make a mockery of the concept of weight classes.

 

I don't trust Serrano seeing that she is involved with obvious juice head Jake Paul