Is "Weight Bullying" real ? If so, does Bivol have the answer?

No no no, lad...

Are you crazy ?

That's much too close to the start of the fight.

I would weigh the fighters immediately after the anthems so as to have that out of the way (no pun), and this would allow them to concentrate on the instructions from the ref, without being distracted by the scales.

This also allows the ring staff to get the scales out of the ring while the ref is instructing.

 

We're like an inch (or a couple hours) apart on our opinion on this but I'm skeptical of measures that require people to just get better.

In the best case, when paired with removing the in between divisions, fighters would stop trying to do as much gamesmanship with their weight. Just focus on their skills and conditioning.

On the other hand, if you do remove those in between divisions (and some of them unambiguously have to go, fascinatingly 115 is the most useless and yet it's been on fire for a while, so maybe it has earned its place?) you might end up with the same situation we have now where you have a large range of sizes in each division. I don't mind that too much but we'd still hear about weight bullies I'm sure.

 

Yes I think there should always be a clause. All this dehydrating is making an already dangerous sport more dangerous.

 

This, too many weight classes compounded with day before weigh ins leads to situations where shenanigans can be played with the weights.

Go back to same day weigh ins and have a doctor not allow a fighter to fight dehydrated.

I'm also all for giant fines when fighters miss weight, like 90% fine and or a 3 year ban

 

I like same day weigh ins, but I don't think we'll ever go back to that for the reasons you gave about rehydration clauses.

Rehydration clauses do happen in boxing, more of them is better than none of them imo.

 

LOL this is irony at its finest. Those who praise weight bullies and act like weight bullies are P4P fighters appear to me they've never been in a boxing gym and therefore do not understand the basics of size. Someone bigger than you takes your punches better, is stronger and they have more of an impact when they land. That can be the decisive factor and can easily negate skill. Weight bullying is not on any level impressive or praiseworthy.

Fighters weight bully for a reason, because it puts them at advantage. You think fighters actively put themselves at a disadvantage? There is a fine line though as it gets to the point where cutting all that weight to weight bully after a while has an overall negative effect on them and they end up having to move up in weight.

The casual fan boys who rim the likes of weight bullies in Haney, Ryan Garcia, Crawford can't get this into the head any of this because they blinded by what they are fed by the promotion.

 

Size does not easily negate skill ffs. It's a factor in a fight, yes, but so are lots of things.

If someone can safely make weight within the parameters of the sport, then they are doing nothing wrong.

Like you said, why should someone disadvantage themselves?

 

Erm absolute bull shite, yes it can and it does, especially when we are talking about fighters at the top where there is roughly same skill level. A highly skilled opponent can be made to look unimpressive by lesser skilled heavier opponent purely because their better resistance to punches and heavier/more physical punching makes skill redundant

 

No.

 

Just bring back same day weigh ins simples

 

Weight bullying is a myth. If you make the fight weight then game on and let’s get ready to rumble.

 

Are speed bullies real? Power bullies? Defense bullies? Was Winky Wright a jab bully?