Is weight training good for boxers?

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  1. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    I always frown at the explosiveness of lifting weights, compared to punching it's still not explosive at all. Resistance training can be done truly explosively, like elastic bands for instance, or good old heavy bag work. But large weights? Not really.

    And the "if done correctly" line is tiresome as well. Running, if done correctly, is good for boxing. Cycling, if done correctly, is good for boxing. Everything, if done correctly, can be good. Just accept that most of the time it's done far from correctly, and that opinions differ on what correct is. I'm not saying weights are bad or anything, like I said resistance training is needed and there are many forms of resistance training.

    Rant over, flame away.
     
  2. RDJ

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    Punching your weights? :think

    Lifting weights is not sports specific. Our sport is to punch things not to lift things into the sky.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It isn't a seperate work out you combine plyometric movements along with a weight routine in the same workout.

    For example do squats with a heavy weight no more than 5 reps if you can manage more, then the weight isn't heavy enough. Then once that set is complete immediatley do a set of box jumps.

    I have found this has improved my explosiveness and speed.
     
  4. 4eyes

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    :good Good Post
     
  5. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like what..?
     
  6. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good i like this. I always think too people should read up on opinions by all means and ask questions. But no one ever wants to do the work themselves anymore research wise. They just want 1 answer to all their training prayers and unfortunately there isnt one! Read and research and use what is useful and discard what isnt useful FOR YOU!
     
  7. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I used perfect push up handles, and put weights in my back pack.

    And i still class this as weight trainning, and i also think its a far more superior movement for sports.

    I have not been the gym in months and months, but i still have traps like Evander Holyfeild and would be out of place, next to David Haye.
     
  8. RDJ

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    Sports specific resistance training, I'm not settling for mere crossover gains.
     
  9. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have you ever thought about trainning your rotator cuff muscles..?
     
  10. RDJ

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    Is there any goal to this question? :huh

    Let's reverse that. Why would I specifically think about training my rotator cuff muscles? Have you ever thought about training your illiopsoas?
     
  11. Primadonna Kool

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    Your rotator muscles, are the first things to pop in most boxers, and most athletes in most sports. When you are hitting the heavybag, its your rotator muscles that are keeping your shoulder stabled, and moving your shoulder.

    But your rotator muscles are not being worked, at all. Thats why they pop, tear and become damaged because people neglecti them.

    If you train your rotator cuff, your punching power will increase in my opinion.

    I rep out, some rotator cuff exercises with 12kg dumbells for a laugh.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/criticalbench24.htm
     
  12. RDJ

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    The parts in bold are contradicting each other. If the muscle attached to the joint isn't doing anything, there is no wear and tear either. If it is stabilising and moving the shoulder, it's being worked. You can't have both. Isolation exercises for this specific muscle make no sense at all. It will be worked with the rest of my body during sports specific resistance training.

    Citing a bodybuilder site doesn't really do your case any good.
     
  13. Primadonna Kool

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    Carry on what your doing then, hitting a heavy bag..like a mindless fool.

    And when you have any shoulder problems, don't start crying.

    You should train, your rotator cuff.
     
  14. RDJ

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    I train my rotator cuff. It's part of my body.
     
  15. avk47

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    When I boxed, I always stuck to bodyweight training, and never did weights. It gave me enough strength to never feel weak or pushed around in clinches. However, I do think that weight training has its benefits - for example, doing olympic lifting style work is extremely explosive and can have huge benefits.

    I think the problem is when novice amateurs get too obsessed with their physiques, and overdo bodybuilder style weight training, while neglecting conditioning and technique. I think that weight training should be fitted in once all other traditional boxing work is done to the correct level, so long as it doesn't interrupt the necissary recovery period for maximum performance.

    The use of explosive, weighted exercises has been used very successfully by top Russian amateurs for a while now, and has produced good results. The key is structuring the training schedule, which most people arnt competent to do.