Is Wilder seriously going to get a pass for passing up a 120 million dollar, 3 fight deal?

Nonsense. If two parties are negotiating a deal and one party asks for a contract, you provide one!

Only a total idiot would accept a $50m deal without sight of a contract and full terms and conditions.

 

Of course Wilder is right to turn down 120 Million, he knows what he is doing, he has been doing it for 10 years.

People in this thread are so dumb, they know jack about business.

@MVC! Can run free business management workshops for the forum so you can learn why Wilder makes the BEST business moves in the industry.

Show Wilder some respect, he has a business degree like MVC!. Haters


/endsarcasm

 

He's 34 this year.

 

Wilder IS NOT taking a pass on a three-fight, $100 million+ deal.

According to Dan Rafael, it just looks like the $100 milliion deal he's going to sign is coming from Showtime, not DAZN.

And he won't have to fight Joshua to earn it.

And he can still sign to fight Joshua on DAZN or Fury on ESPN for even more.

You guys have belittled Wilder for so long you don't even recognize that he's the hottest property in boxing.

 

i don't get why Wilder is getting so much hate. All he's turned down is being signed to a promoter. He can still fight on DAZN after, for likely more money, without actually being signed to them. For probably the first time in his life, he's done something sensible

 

I don't get it either.

After Fury walked away from the rematch, and the WBC ordered him to fight Breazeale, it was clear Wilder was going to fight Breazeale in May.

And he still is. And he'll fight him on Showtime instead of on DAZN or the ESPN+ app. And more people have Showtime than have either combined.

So I don't know what changed for anyone, other than they are angry at learning how wildly popular Wilder is with TV execs throwing around money.

Wilder is still fighting Breazeale in May.

Joshua is still fighting Miller in June.

Fury is still looking for an opponent after walking away from another title shot.

 

Lol is that why Espinosa was claiming on twitter an actual contract was drawn up and sent?

Which one is it? Was it sent or not as team Wilder seem to be saying two different things.

Hearn requested a meeting which was denied.

Now I'll ask this again. Since when do fighters send emails offering fight deals?

 

I'm not surprised to see you still banging the same drum after all the facts have been exposed. AJ ducked. It's not open for debate at this point. AJ didn't want the fight so he ducked to make MUCH LESS money fighting with 16,000 people watching. He was then forced to abandon a stadium fight to make EVEN LESS fighting a nobody in a country where he's completely irrelevant on a streaming service with no subscribers. Sad sad times.

 

No you don't. You simply don't and nobody who has ever done business in any industry involving contracts would ever agree with you. Nobody would ever agree to engage a lawyer and produce a contract before the fight is accepted in principle and basic terms agreed. For every big fight that has ever been done the basic terms were agreed "without sight of a contract and full terms and conditions".

The statements you are making show you clearly have no expertise or experience in this area. In future I would suggest you make it clear that you are offering an uneducated opinion and then listen more carefully to those more knowledgeable who offer to educate you as to why you're so wrong.

 

I tell you what Davo - why don't you PM me your details and we'll hook up on LinkedIn. We can then compare experience/expertise. Let's continue this conversation after that.

 

I'll repeat his being paid $35 mil to fight Miller. You are right Espinosa did expose it all.

 

pure and simple duck by all people involved.
giving a guy over 100 million to avoid joshua is absolute bullsh*t.

i get why wilder would accept that, why not. its his bank balance going up and up. but in regards to avoiding a fight. its a simple DUCK

 

I'm very sorry you've taken my post so personally. I genuinely wasn't trying to upset you. I just don't think you do yourself or the wider discussion any favours by making such vehement statements that make so little sense and expose your lack of basic understanding of the subject. Contracts and negotiations can be extremely complicated, but there are always a few basic principles and I hope you now understand this one and take that understanding forward in your future posts on this subject. All the best.

 

I think Wilder would rather get paid for fights people will actually get to see, but that's just my opinion. He seems to think he will make more money in any case.

$35mn plus whatever AJ got for Povetkin is still MUCH lower than the $80mn he was offered for two fights with Wilder. Add in the fact Povetkin and Miller are both terrible opponents nobody cares about and neither is on TV or US streaming service with any subscribers and AJ's decision starts to look even worse. Let's not even talk about the fact he was forced to abandon a long planned stadium PPV fight.

I agree if AJ gets $35mn for a fight so ignored by the public it will be unprecedented in boxing. I'm not sure where that number has come from but I'll take your word for it. It's sad to think the US and UK viewership will be so low for a HW title fight involving a Brit and an American but unfortunately that's the decision AJ made. Clearly AJ is not motivated by money or legacy but I'm sure he has his reasons for doing as he has. Hopefully 2020 will start to look up for him though.

 

You're the one who made it personal. Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. The fact you won't take me up on my offer tells me all I need to know. You're as big a ducker as your hero Wilder.