Is Wilder seriously going to get a pass for passing up a 120 million dollar, 3 fight deal?

Why then, when one of the boxing organisations orders a fight between two fighters, their promoters have some time to make a deal for the fight? No money is yet involved, just a potential fight.
If AJ's promoters wanted to meet and discuss the potential fight it means they were interested in it, isn't it obvious?

 

Again mate, I really didn't mean to get your back up and I'm sorry I upset you. I suggest instead of trying to identify and open people up to harassment in their real life you accept that posting your opinion on forums will often generate a counterpoint from others. Especially if your opinion is stated as a fact but so obviously incorrect to anyone with any knowledge on the subject. You said something a bit silly and I probably should have just let it go instead of coming down on you so hard about it. Sorry again. It's only boxing

 

Sorry, I don't see what you're trying to say. When a purse bid happens, promoters will try and agree a deal first yes. That means they will offer terms and hope the other side accepts or offers a counter. If an agreement is made in principal the contract will then be drawn up. If one side rejects the terms saying they don't believe the other side can pay the money they offer, the fight would go to a purse bid without any contracts ever being exchanged. As would have happened with AJ and Wilder. As there was no mandate, AJ chose to walk away and fight Povetkin with 16,000 watching and Wilder fought Fury on PPV.

So in this case, the fight was not made and no contract sent because AJ rejected the offer and failed to agree the basic terms. Just to clarify, he did not ask for a meeting to agree terms he first asked to see a contract. Meetings started to be requested by Hearn after AJ rejected the $80mn and Wilder-Fury was already made/over.

 

Excuses excuses. If you're going to make outlandish claims and false accusations, you should at least be prepared to back them up. Otherwise I can't even begin to take you seriously. You're the one that brought up about experience/knowledge, when you couldn't be more wrong. The lesson you should take is never make assumptions about people you don't know. You bottled it, so that's the end of it as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the apology though, it's much appreciated.

 

Many people on this board called Wilder a fool when he didn't take the 12,5 mill flat fee.... Seems like the right choice now

 

Not necessarily. He could be undisputed champ by now. He's not any closer to that is he?

 

And imagine what DAZN's or ESPN's offer would be if he beat AJ and been undisputed by now?

 

There wouldn't be a DAZN in the US if Wilder had beaten Joshua by now.

It's hard to sell subscriptions to watch Tevin Farmer fight every two months, and then offer nothing the other six days of the week.

 

He’s crazy if so but after him and Joshua’s next fight what’s stopping from making it happen then later this year?

 

Of course there would. Are you forgetting about Canelo?

Wilder would probably have got a similar offer as undisputed heavyweight champ.

 

Holds the chips in his favor ?

The only CHIP in his favor is this one........

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Beyond bargaining CHIPS..( that he doesn't hold )..he will make a mockery of himself even if he gets by Breazeale ( a fight im closing in on to seeing Breazeale win , we BOTH know what that means ..right ? lol ) and he will do so by fighting fights no one wants to REALLY see for 5 million and he will have fans trickle off to the point he will be almost forced into retirement or take a Joshua fight and that's assuming he doesn't lose before then .


Maybe you once again are lost and really haven't a clue about what is a Bargaining chip ? Its not a single belt with questionable wins with it nor a guy who cant generate ANY PPV's unless he fights the guys he runs away from ? Don't you get that yet ? lol

In his DAZN deal he was still offered Joshua with a loss ,he is now betting on himself ??????

That means he's betting on not getting knocked out and maintaining a QUALITY resume to position himself to ask for about 150 million while generating 5 /10 per fight in 2020 under Showtimes deal ?

 

Can't argue with this. I thought the $100mn offer from DAZN was too good to turn down, but Al Haymon is Al Haymon for a reason.

 

Your trust in Wilders chances of winning vs AJ surprices me )

 

But Wilder said it wasn't about the money lol. Now it's suddenly about how much they could potentially make later on in PPV, now it's team Wilder talking about marinating it until they make the most money. Wilder fans vilified Hearn or suggesting such a thing but when Wilder's team does it, he gets a pass?

As for the 12.5 mill flat fee, many people at the time said Wilder deserved a split, but Wilder himself legitimised that offer by agreeing to it. Had he held out for more and not agreed many wouldn't of then later criticised him for pulling out and refusing to sign that contract.

But if we ignore all that, then yeah 12.5 mill was a low offer and he should of not agreed that, he deserved more. But that's with hindsight, at the time he was making 1-2 mill a fight, it's easy to say he should of taken it then when he was making so little. Once he fought Fury and did OK on PPV, it clearly changed his market value and Hearn responded and offered him a split, eventually making a number of offers ending in a 60/40 split which many at the time said was fair, even many Wilder fans before said it was fair, until of course he declined it and then the 60/40 was unfair.

Now we have a situation where he's been offered more than any heavyweight ever for a guaranteed fight and he's turning it down along with a very highly paid defence for Breazeale. Maybe 3-4 months from now he will be offered more and with hindsight we can say he was right for turning down this $100-120 mill offer but right now based on the information we have it's a damn good offer he turned down and it looks like a blantant duck. We can't see into the future we can only judge him based on his actions now and what we know now and many now are calling it a duck, even those who agreed with him before are beginning to see this as a duck.