Is Wilder the new Valuev?

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  1. KingFury64

    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    On a long winning streak until he eventually loses to the first decent fighter he meets?
     
  2. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    valuev was actually a decent fighter back in the day.

    when he started getting recognition is when he was starting to go downhill
     
  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Valuev would beat Wilder
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Valuev was better than Wilder, and beat Ruiz, who himself was an accomplished guy.
     
  5. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Valuev had decent skills, huge size, and an unbreakable chin. He also earned his belt, and faced decent opposition.
     
  6. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah that's Valuev's biggest issue, people remember him only for his few last fights, when he was already shot to bits due to his medical condition.

    In his prime Valuev was actually surprisingly fast
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones showed Valouev on HBO years ago, said that Valouev was really good fighter for his size. Valouev was better than Wilder, Valouev would knock Wilder out..............
     
  8. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Valuev for his size, was feather fisted. In his prime(?) he took 11 rounds of desperately trying to KO Monte Barrett before he got the job done.

    Valuev was a fraud, protected by Sauerland. He was undeniably beaten by Holyfield, robbed the belt off of Chagaev since he knew he would never win. He also ducked his mandatory Meehan and was comfortable with the WBA circle jerk between him, Chag and Ruiz.

    He chin was a myth too....he's been stunned by Haye, Bergeron, Bidenko and Barrett.
     
  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    No, he wasn't................Haye ran like Hell, hardly landed any punches. Even the commentators said that Haye had to land punches to win the fight.................Haye landed one good punch, which did not bother Valouev................Valouev had a good chin. Barrett did not come near hurting Valouev....................Wilder had no chin and will not fight anyone.............................only voluntary fights...............
     
  10. Deew

    Deew Active Member Full Member

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    Don't diss Valuev by associating him with Wilder like that.
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His resume ****s on Wilder's. Period.
     
  12. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    That's an exaggeration. :roll: It's marginally better, and he didn't have many decisive wins.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually, it is vastly better.
     
  14. Bad Boy Bill

    Bad Boy Bill Active Member Full Member

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    I agree, Good post! I thought Holyfield should have gotten the nod though.
     
  15. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Totally different boxers. Valuev didn't fight against Klitschko brothers and we will never know his genuine position in HW 2000's. I think we can agree he was decent, but never tested 100%.
    We will see soon where Wilder belongs...Potential is here, I am worried about health issues. I hope he will be back soon.