Is Wilders resume underrated?

Ok Wilder's best opponent was Ortiz by far

AJ and Fury - Wlad.

Othere than that, you say Wilder has better resume than both. Does he?

Wilder has wins vs Duhaupas, Molina, Arreola, Szpilka, Scott, Stiverne, Washingthon

AJ on the other hand beat Parker, Takam, Whyte, Breazeale, Martin, Molina

Fury has beaten Dereck Chisora twice, Cunningham, Hammer, Kevin Johnson

You decide.

 

Wilder's only credible win is against a 40+ year old man (his listed age is clearly BS) with foot speed like walking through treacle, on heart medication and who in turn has looked like dog crap in his last few fights. Particularly in almost being taken the distance by sub-British level Dave Allen.

Duhaupas: another slow fighter with only a semi-decent jab to his name. Blasted out by Povetkin and clear UD loss to Miller since then.

Molina: crap fighter, blasted out by Joshua in 3, Wilder struggled badly with common opponent

Arreola: Never beaten anyone decent before and shot to pieces by the time he fought wilder

Stiverne: Only semi-credible wins were against Arreola (see above)

Spilzka - outboxed Wilder for most of the fight, sparked out much more convincingly by Kownacki since

Scuba Scott - took one of the most obvious dives ever to gift Wilder a win

 

I disagree.

Whyte, Breazeale, Wlad, Takam, and Parker are what separates their resumes in Joshua’s favour.

Wilder has Stiverne 1 and Ortiz.

It’s subjective though. I’d back Parker against anyone on Wilder’s resume. The Wlad that fought Joshua I back to knock them all out, including Wilder.

It’s not so much that their resumes are leagues apart, but given how many fights Wilder has had, that’s perhaps embarrassing.

 

He has one good name in Ortiz and one debatable solid name over stiverne as we don't know how much stiverne had left.

Wilders resume is very thin outside of those 2 names. Duhaupas is a gate keeper, Molina is a journeymen, Washington and Szplika both fringe contenders who were beaten more convincingly in their next fights. Arreola was so shot he needed lucky decisions over Rossy and Kaufman.

 

No. Wilders resume is over rated if anything. Joseph Parker has the under rated resume. Wilders resume is more akin to other contenders Miller, Breazeale, Takam, Pulev, Whyte, full of gatekeepers and tough journeymen. He has one victory over the only legitimate contender hes faced, and he struggled badly. Whereas Joshua, Fury, Parker and Povetkin have been knocking over other contenders for years and in fashion.

 

Don’t disrespect Fury he beat the better version of Wlad more decisively.

 

Yeah but be fair to ortiz he could shuffle forward and throw single shots well

 

AJ's resume is better...

 

No. His resume is really poor and old sick Ortiz is the best name on it by some distance and wilder was lucky to get out of that one with his belt.

 

Sorry anyone saying the special needs teacher and polish hooligan are anything other than awful need to study what good boxers look like.

Scott clearly took a dive so doesn't count.

Ortiz is decent but clearly nearing 50.

Stiverne was never better than ok and was well out of shape when he fought Wilder.

The pastry chef is durable but that's it.

Pretty terrible resume. Apart from Dustin Nichols of course.

 

Take away Ortiz and Wlad and Joshua still has a much stronger resume, with wins over Parker, Takam and Whyte adding depth to his win column.

Fury's resume is more comparable, since outside of Wlad his only victories of note are over Chisora, Cunninham and Hammer, none of which are head and shoulders above many of the names on Wilder's resume.

I don't think Wilder's resume is quite so terrible as people like to make out, since Duhaupas went on to have a few decent performances after that, and a nice KO win over Helenius. Washington I still consider a decent fighter who's been dumped in at the deep end recently and looked bad as a result. I put him on a similar level to Breazeale, so anyone bigging that win up for Joshua needs to do the same for Wilder. He also has a first round KO of Lyakhovich, who'd go on to give Ruiz some problems. Szpilka I still consider an OKish win, though nothing to write home about.

On the flip side, neither Arreola nor Scott should give Wilder any credit, since Arreola was completely shot at the time, and Scott took a pretty obvious dive.

 

Nichols is a name with weight to it.

 

No Wilder has 1 bonafide top 10 fighter in Ortiz, Stiverne was imo a weak top 10 level of fighter.

The rest are top 20 type fighters.

Joshuas resume is overrated, outside of a 41yo inactive Wlad we have Parker who again imo was a weak champion and I think Wilder beats him. And the rest are c level opposition at best.

With the exception of Wlad there really isn't much difference apart from Joshua has done it in half the time.

 

He has one top 5 guy in Ortiz and one ATG in Nichols.

Out of 40 fights, pretty poor