Is Wilders resume underrated?

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  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    is that a good record? Seems very below average to me.
     
  2. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. No it isn't. When a resume takes 30 fights and 6 years before you see a live opponent then it's no way underrated. Even if you were feeling generous and just counted until he fought the recognizable name rather than the first credible opponent then it's still 27 fights in six years before he fought the ancient Audley Harrison.

    Joshua and Fury's records might not be noticable superior - with the exception of Wlad on both men's record - but they took less than half the amount of time and fights to reach to pinacle of the Heavyweight scene.
     
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  3. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Wilder's resume truly is garbage. And I can say that as a fan of the Bomber. He has the tools, and looks, to be huge in the US. But that comes with taking risks. He's become the WW version of Andre Berto when he had a belt facing no-hopers.
     
  4. 305th

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  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    See, this is it. It's not just that Wilder fought the worst collection of stiffs and tomato cans his handlers could find, it's that he fought these D and F level opponents for far longer than just about any other rated HW you could find.

    All fighters face soft opposition at the start of their careers, but they are usually done with this type of fighter in about half the time - or less - than Wilder was. And seriously, the guys Wilder fought are even worse than what prospects typically face.
     
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  6. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Decent top 40 fighters in one of the weakest divisions in boxing? That is supposed to be a big achievement?
     
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  7. Cafe

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    It's underrated relative to how awful HW division is. If you take that into account, it's not a bad resume at all. On a p4p scale, it is a **** resume.

    He's got plenty of contenders/fringe contenders, a couple of champion/fringe champion level guys. The only guys of relevance left are Parker, AJ (trying to get him), Fury (n/a), Povetkin (tried to fight him). So 3 of those not happening are not even his fault.

    I can't really criticize him that much.
     
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  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. I think he clearly has the best resume out of all current heavyweights, which isn't saying much, since the division is extremely weak.

    Washington, Pulev, Miller, Whyte, and Breazeale would be nowhere near top 10 heavyweights in the past. I would favor Bellew in beating these guys, but he won't, since there isn't any money in it.
     
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  9. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I still think AJ has better resume, and considerably so if he beats Pov. The Wlad W just trumps anything Wilder has done, outside of that, they're close.
     
  10. Scissors

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  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Short, sweet and to the point.
     
  12. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder's record is fairly criticized, but the reasons behind it seem impossible to understand for the clueless haterz.

    Wilder is possibly the most DUCKED fighter of the 21st century. Plus some bad luck with Pedvetkin, and that legal issue that killed one fight.

    I'm not even going to discuss this with anyone dumb enough not to see the obvious.
     
  13. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disagree, Joshua's win over Wlad better than any win on Wilder's resume and Parker's better than Ortiz IMO, and for that matter, Fury's win over a better version of Wlad than Joshaua fought makes his resume better than Wilder's IMO.
     
  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad came off a two year retirement after being toyed with and easily beaten by Fury. If Wlad Had beaten Fury and was still the reigning unified champ when Joshua beat him I'd agree the Joshua hands down has the best resume, but it just isn't the case.

    Also, lets not forget that this was the same Wlad that two years before the Joshua fight went 12 rounds with a feathrfisted novice like Jennings, who he would've made short work of if he were 2-3 years younger.

    Also, Parker besides a close win over Andy Ruiz has beaten nobody worth mentioning.

    Ortiz easily knocked out #5 Jennings, which trumps Parker's narrow win over Ruiz, who wasn't in the top 10 at the time.
     
  15. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder has stopped every fighter that he has faced. Resume be dammed.