Is Wlad Klitschko a latter day Harry Wills?

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  1. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ...He's out of his element, Janitor. Toad-boy is only comfortable drooling over Tyson or putting whoopie cushions on chairs and running away.
     
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  2. ChrisPontius

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    Well i was more talking about his prime which was from somewhere 1915-1925. Johnson was old and fading, Willard was horrible, Dempsey avoided the #1 challenger for 7 years, Langford was a former middleweight and many other lightheavyweights were in the heavyweight rankings. To put it short, the talent in the 180+ pound division was pretty poor in terms of depth. Not in terms of quality of course, with Dempsey and Wills around.
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think we are talking about diferent eras.

    Bill Tate was at his peak long before Dempsey was on the scene.

    On the light heavyweight isue I think there have been a good few light heavyweights who would have bee among the top half dozen heavyweights in any era.
     
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  4. sp6r=underrated

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    If Langford was born today he would be bigger and Waldo wouldn't be as big if he was born a century earlier.
     
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  5. Stonehands89

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    We'll take Langford just as he is. He was knocking out HWs just as big as Wlad.
     
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  6. sp6r=underrated

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    In general, do you disagree with the fact that a guy like Wlad wouldn't be as big if he had been born 100 years ago?
     
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  7. Stonehands89

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    Not necessarily. See Willard, Fulton, and Tate to begin with.
     
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  8. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I don't really see the relevance of this point anyway. He's living right now, deal with it.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    Youre first instinct would be more interesting ,I think.!
     
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  10. janitor

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  11. SuzieQ49

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    :lol: :lol: LMAO, i didnt know u had a funny side stonehands! :rofl
     
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  12. SuzieQ49

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    The Author of unforgiveable blackness told me personally tunney was veiwed as an elitist snob, and that he was a huge racist.
     
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  13. SuzieQ49

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    I still dont think wlad has faced a real skilled REAL HEAVYWEIGHT boxer. If he outboxes alexander potvekin and nicolay valuev clearly and cleanly, I will totally sucumb to this thread and admit his skill is top teir and he deserves mention for top 20.
     
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  14. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As an older man, Tunney was a little regretful about his image as a fighter. He did come off as elitest and dismissive to the media, but also gave a speech about Shakespeare at a university. He was extremely well read and suprisingly intellectual.

    He was very strategic minded about boxing, perhaps as much as if not more than Leonard was in the 80s. Great strategists both. Tunney consulted with Benny Leonard before the Greb rematch and got some worthwhile tips about how to beat the Windmill.
     
    Stonehands89, Jul 15, 2008
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  15. McGrain

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    Klitschko-Langford is a pretty horrible match up for Wlad in my estimation, partly for the reasons you've indentified, but mainly because of Klit's style. Klitschko feels he can only fight one way - the way he's been fighting this past year - and that would leave Langford in the contest for the duration. Yes, Langford would be getting picked off and hurt, probably badly, but he is a live threat every moment he is in there.

    If it goes to points it's only going one way. But if there's a KO, it's only going one way, Sam's way.
     
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