Is Wlad the best all-time-heavyweight? NO OPINION, just PURE RECORD ANALYSIS

Because mathematically he is now 18/19, when he loses its 18/20, when he wins it's 19/20. So whatever happens the % ratio will change in the future.

Olympia, sparring, amateurs are not considered.

By the way Ali won the gold medal at the Olympic Games 1960 in LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT. Klitschko won gold 1996 in SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT (2 classes above light heavyweight). If I would include Olympic results then this would favour Klitschko and penalize Ali.

Valuev clashes with undefeated fighter consist of Bango (16-0, TKO6), Nobles (24-0, DQ4), chagaev (22-0, LOST), Bergeron (27-0, UD12). Not overwhelming, but OK.

Yes, it's very disrespectful, but actually means "Below Useful Margin". I use "bum" because it instantly communicates what I try to point out.

 

I KNOW that Jimmy Young is considered NON-BUM.

I KNOW that Young was considered a worthy opponent. But look at his FACTUAL lifetime performance, as I described in a post above:
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1975297&postcount=106

As I pointed out in my first post: A lot of Klitschko's opponents are bummish. But even more so of Foreman.

 

You are pretty sure that featherfist Holyfield would starch Wlad.

And Foreman was mainly fighting bums in the 70ies, but lost his punch in the 80ies. So I don't know what Foreman you are talking about.

Tyson has NEVER won by (T)KO against a tall (6'4''+) non-bum opponent (except vs Lou Savarese 6'5''). And Wlad would be Tyson's tallest opponent (6'6.5''). In all instances Tyson went to the scorecards OR WAS KOed by a tall opponent. Remember Klitschko vs Ibragimov? Iggy was weighing approx. the same as Prime Tyson, but was taller (6'2''), Tyson was only 5'10''. Tyson was a great champ and did the best he could for his size and weight, but you are deceived by pictures of Tyson KOing bums AND/OR short opponents.

And please, see it also the other way around: It's not only that Wlad has to overcome Evan Fields, Tyson and Foreman, but these boxers have to withstand Wlad, too. All of these boxers have been KOed at least once, and Wlad would be one of the hardest KOers they ever ran into (harder than Tyson).

 

Please no examples from single bouts (Buster Douglas came out of shape for this fight), but the overall record counts:

Holyfield has a KO ratio in his heavyweight fights of about 30%.

Similar to Tyson, Holyfield could KO ONLY SMALL opponents (6'3'' or smaller). The tallest one was actually the mentioned Buster Douglas (6'3.5''). (It seems that size matters since both Holyfield and Tyson are below 6'3''). Klitschko is 6'6.5''.

In his entire heavyweight career Holyfield KOed ONLY 10 non-bums. Ali only 9.

That _IS_ featherfisted and is typical for natural cruisers, e.g. Holyfield, Ali, Chris Byrd, Michael Moorer.

Whereas natural heavyweights 200+ have a much higher KO rate.

This, too, is a reason why this 200 lbs margin is a very special one.

It means however, that fights with featherfists (but ironchins) like Holyfield and Ali go the full 12+ rounds and stay in mind as "wars" or "brawls". Whereas Klitschko dominates his opponent (how many rounds per fight do you actually see Klitschko losing?) and that stays in mind as "His opponent was weak and china-chinned".

 

Then nobody has.

Where is the proof that the division is weak, besides the general brainwashing affirmations from US-commentators? When was the division strong?

 

The bum, the contender and the golfer were (opposed to Holyfield) power punchers. And I don't know why you try to be insulting to Corrie Sanders just because he plays golf. I didn't mention ANYTHING that Tyson has done outside of the ring to discredit Tyson's boxing accomplishments. And how could being a contender be something bad? Besides, he won and defended his world title AGAINST GOOD OPPOSITION with good KOs thus has proven he is good. I don't know how many here would agree with you trying to diminish Lamon Brewster.

You try to discredit Klitschko's opponents by some strange description twists to fit your bias, whereas I am supporting my statements by record stats.

This view is a valid opinion, but not supported by Evan Fields record.