Is Wlad the most underrated ATG

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  1. PityTheFool

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    Only in your ****ing vacuum of a head.:rofl
     
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  2. Vladimir23

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    :lol: at the butthurt Americans and butthurt Brittards.

    Prime Wlad beats any HW from any era.

    Prime Vitali is the only fighter in history who can beat Prime Wlad.

    The Klitschkos would dominate any era.

    Deal with it.
     
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    Vladimir's "FACTS"

    The Sea Monkeys of ESB
     
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  4. Rock0052

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    Wlad's title reign > Holmes' title reign by the time it's said and done. In my mind it is already.

    Wlad didn't fight Vitali...but Larry never fought Page or Thomas (vacating his belt for the easy money in Marvis Frazier instead), never rematched his toughest fights, and never unified. He cherry picked a LHW who'd never fought at HW before to go for Marciano's record and it bit him in the ass.

    So, Wlad lost 3 times on the way up. He took more risks in his matchmaking than Holmes did, and wound up accomplishing a little more. As of now, the two balance out for me.

    They're both ATG's and right now should be ranked in the same area. I don't see how one could have Holmes rated highly and Wlad not.
     
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    In the 90s many people viewed Lewis kind of like they do Wlad now. Once Wlad retires he will get a lot more respect, he should get it now as Lewis should have when he was fighting. The 90s was also considered a weak era during the 90s.
     
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    'Very good in his era'? -- more like downright dominated the era.
     
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    Bull****
     
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    del
     
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  9. Jack

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    Then name one who fits that criteria. If I'm talking ****, surely you can give me one name to disprove me? You have over 100 years of history in plenty of divisions.
     
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    Can you post us all your top 20 greatest heavies then?.......
     
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  11. Asterion

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    Wlad is right now a consensus Top15 heavyweight of all time. Only haters rank him outside of the Top15.

    In my opinion, Wlad should rank in the Top10: I rank him between #8 and #10.
     
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  12. Jack

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    This list is just off the top of my head. It's not in perfect order but anyway:

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Lennox Lewis
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Joe Frazier
    6. George Foreman
    7. Rocky Marciano
    8. Mike Tyson
    9. Evander Holyfield
    10. John L. Sullivan
    11. Jack Johnson
    12. Sonny Liston
    13. Jim Jeffries
    14. Riddick Bowe
    15. Harry Wills
    16. Ezzard Charles
    17. Gene Tunney
    18. Floyd Patterson
    19. Ken Norton
    20. Michael Spinks

    Wlad ranks more alongside guys like Baer, Ingo, Langford, Schmeling etc..

    Your location used to be "Bolton", right? I noticed that because I'm from Bolton too. I used to live pretty close to Westhoughton. Random, I know :lol:
     
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    Stop embarrassing him. Seriously.
     
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