Is Wladimir better at controlling range than Lennox was ?

Wlad didn't KO Chagaev early because he wanted to punish him, he didn't like Chagaev.

Wlad has a much scarier right cross than Lennox, and his jab is also more severe and he's better with it.

Have you watched young Wladimir?

 

Why dont you ask a simple question.. Which of these two men remain the most boring, lack lustre, unwilling, slow of though, flat footed, oversized idiots????

Im sorry to sound harsh, as both are fine champs.... **** me dead though.. I cant name a memorable fight amongst them.

 

I wasn't aware that there was any bad blood between Wladimir and Chagaev. Both acted like gentlemen towards each other actually.

I guess Wladimir has wanted to punish a lot of people lately since many of his recent fights have gone past the early rounds, aside from Ray Austin whom he actually did dislike and thus crushed him early, partly because of his aggression, partly because Austin offered no opposition.

I would be more scared of the right crosses Lewis crumbled Weaver, Ruddock, Briggs, Botha, Tyson and Rahman with than Wladimir's. I wouldn't want to be on the end of Wladimir's jab though.

 

Thank **** for that... usually I have to make an arse of myself for days.. and then make a 'peace out' via PM.


:good:good

 

I have a bit of a different view of what controlling range means. To me it doesn't mean having your opponent on the outside of your jab all the time, to me it means having your opponent where you want him to be. So for example Lewis didn't want Ruddock, or Golota or Grant on the outside, he wanted them on the inside. Up close and personal. Wlad will never want that, he may be forced to deal with it, as he was with Peters and Sanders but he'll never want his opposition to be in that range. Thus I would give the edge to Lewis in this department, although Wlad has improved a great deal.

Tyson's the complete opposition, he wants all his opposition up close, and since he got this result most of the time, he too was great at controlling range.

 

wlad´s entire gameplan is staying on the outside, the man seems scared when other fighters are in range.. he has some weaknesses ,that lewis simply doesnt have, and thus HAVE to stay outside..

lewis was excellent at infighting, he tied up the opponents and had a vicious uppercut.. So he wasnt "forced" into controlling the range, the way wlad does. IF they got inside, lewis would be fine and comfortable, THAT can never be said about wlad.

to me, lennox was much more versatile, when compared to wlad

 

This is Wlads flaw, when someone is the same size and throws a punch he needs to hold on, lean on the kneck and even turn his back and run behind him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzkl6I5IS50

 

Yeah, I wasn't either. I asked my trainer who has worked with Steward for ~30 years, he said Wlad was punishing Ruslan and didn't like him. I don't know why, and I didn't get this from Steward so don't quote me. However, it makes perfect sense. I think Wlad was just pissed about the Haye ordeal and wanted to punish someone.

 

I'm fully aware of how aggressive he fought earlier in his career. But he got his range-controlling reputation since he was trained by Steward.

To be fair, he would've steamrolled a lot of great's opposition, with the odd upset loss. Lennox vs Dempsey's opponents would be a bloodbath. :dead

 

Wlad didnt ko Chagaev early ,because he was frightened to commit himself ,at the first sign of aggression from the reluctant Russian , he back pedalled faster than Tunney against Dempsey.We need to see Wlad against some one who comes to WIN ,and not just SURVIVE,Haye would have done that win or lose it would have been a hell of a lot more exciting than that pitiful sparring match that was labelled a title fight.
Wlad has an effective jab but he pecks and paws with it too much, he rarely drives it home.

 

Sure didn't look scared.

I think that's just prejudice. I think Wlad has mostly gotten over the Sanders-Brewster ordeal psychologically. He's a more cautious fighter now, but I don't think that he was scared of Chagaev for one second.

His jab was crushing in the Chagaev fight. He snapped Ruslan's head back with many jabs, I wouldn't say he was pecking or pawing too much. Honestly I think his jab has developed into a major weapon.