Is Wladimir Klitschko an ATG?

Top 15 HW? Absolutely.

Top 50 boxer ever? No.

 

I agree with you to a certain extent but I did like Vladimir K. when Sdunek trained him. Manny Steward turned him into a boring Lennox Lewis clone that actually made him less successful IMO.

 

More successful ... and more boring.

 

He'll never be ranked top 10 HW , never mind top 5. But that doesn't mean he isn't an ATG. Ring recently ranked him at #17 and thats because his era was extremely weak and he still lost in every manner its possible for a boxer to lose.
From getting stopped by a journeyman with more losses than wins , to getting clowned by Fury -- no stone was left unturned when it came to this guy losing fights.

Also add in that fact that he never beat anybody remotely great he cheated for the majority of his reign against mediocre C- level opponents.
Muhammad Ali for example has a 19-3 record against fighters listed in Ring Magazine’s all-time Top 50 heavyweight list. Wlad is 0-0 against all time great ranked boxers.. In what universe do these two men belong 3-4 places apart on the on the same list?

Truly great fighters demolish weak era's , in fact weak era's makes guys look better than are really are. Wlad , a typical German pampered cash cow like Ottke before him , had the system and officiating rigged against his under-matched foe's before they even entered the ring. He could do whatever he wanted in that ring without any fear of disqualification.
On any single night Wlad never once went out and displayed anything even resembling greatness despite facing nothing but non -athletic C level bums. . What we saw instead was a boxing robot , pre-set to repeat the same jab and grab tactic over and over again. He had no adaptability and no plan B if the fight didn't go his way.

Again , his record on paper is what determines him as an ATG. He has ATG accomplishments , but his awful performances and losses will always show how he wasn't an ATG fighter in any way.

 

a weak ATG, near the bottom of the tables.

 

Yes.

Next...

 

There are no tables u senile old ****.

 

I have no idea who you are

 

Just on him dude.

 

Who is he?

 

Dildohelmet is a resident troll. Best ignored.

 

DinoMoron revels in being the most despised person on the boards.

Others have been more despised, it is true, but only for short periods of time. Dino is consistently despicable, and his hatred for all things Klitschko is legendary.

Unfortunately, just like a wet fart, Dino doesn't immediately reveal the magnitude of his true horror. At first you think "Well, he's not so bad. A little passionate maybe, and sure, he seems to have in-depth knowledge of everything Klitschko-related. He might be worth listening to."

DON'T FALL FOR IT!!!

Just as the treacherous comforting warmth of a wet fart reveals itself to be a glob of disgusting turd, Dino likewise reveals himself in all his glutinous glory, given time.

You will notice he is given to hyperbole. Nobody can take a grain of truth like Dino and distort it into something quite different. Besides this, he will outright fabricate on the fly, and sound convincing while doing it. A simple example is the "the fight was never televised" statement he made earlier, whereas it was.

He knows every fighter that either of the Klitschkos fought, and if he's denigrating a fighter you can be sure that it's somebody Wladimir or Vitali beat or lost to. He's also impervious to facts, no matter how cast iron the case. A true monomaniac.

Finally, he is without honour and his word is worth the wiped excreta of said wet fart.

Ask around as to how he honours his bets.

 

Everyone together now

Dino

 

Wow. Imagine being that obsessed with a poster on a forum. The poor guys life must be totally worthless.

 

So I'm on ignore, eh?

Caught out again.