Is wladimir klitschko the greatest Heavweight of all time?

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  1. US_BOXING_FAN

    US_BOXING_FAN New Member Full Member

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    I know that klitschko has a weak chin but from watching his last several fights I don't see anyone out there that can beat him right now. he has a great stiff jab which he could probably knock some guys out with that alone. but he also really does punch like a steel hammer with both fist. and in the Lamon Brewster fight he showed that he has developed great ring movement. I know that most people continue to refer to Ali as the greatest , but let's be real back in his era of boxing those heavyweights would only be today's cruiserweights. Most of those guys would be too small and wouldn't be able to handle klitschko's size or power including Ali , although I believe Ali was actually a more skilled fighter I just don't think he would be able to get inside on klitschko to do any real damage. And i don't even think he would know how to because that just wasn't his style of fighting. Actually I think that George Foreman of those days would have a better chance against klitschko because of his size , power and Chin. And the only guy that has fought within the last few years that i believe would have a good chance to defeat klitschko would be Lennox Lewis. that would have been an exciting fight to watch but sadly we'll never know for sure who would have won that fight.
     
  2. Bart

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  4. US_BOXING_FAN

    US_BOXING_FAN New Member Full Member

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    Can you be a little bit more expansive on your response beside just saying no???..who do you think the Greatest is?
     
  5. Bart

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    A-Force
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali would outbox Klitschko. He was only 3" shorter and about the same reach...on top of that Ali had the chin to withstand Wlad shots and is much faster and much more skilled. Ali would slip Wlad punches and utterly make him silly.

    Tyson would KHTFO. Lewis would KO him too. Foreman would KO him. Holmes would have outboxed him. Holyfield UD.

    Id pick him to beat Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier and all other previous titlists.
     
  7. PeterNielsen70

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    He's only 6'6½, his brother, Vitaly, was 6'7½ i think.
     
  8. Brickhaus

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    I wouldn't give him even odds against Lennox Lewis much less some of the all-time greats.

    - Ali would be able to evade his jab and move inside.
    - Lewis is big enough and jabs well enough to hang on the outside, and had better stamina and chin and would outlast him
    - Foreman (pre-comeback version) would have walked through the job and beaten the hell out of his body until he exposed his chin.
    - Peak Bowe would have countered the jabs with power shots to Wlad's chin.


    Yes, he probably would have beaten most of the small brawling types because he's big and is good at keeping guys on the outside, but he'd have trouble against some of the more elusive heavies and some of the other good big heavies. I'm not sure he's even head to head top 10 material.
     
  9. Muchmoore

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    Um, no. Watch some classic fights.
     
  10. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you mean one of the greatest 100 HWs of all time, then maybe.

    But if you mean top 10, answer is no.

    Wlad has all the tools to become a great HW. But we will only find out when his career is over.

    I see Wlad as this era's Lennox Lewis, only there is nobody around to challenge him whereas during Lewis' era, the HW division has some of the top talents around.
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Ali beat Foreman remember?? It takes heart and will and mental toughness to be considered great or the greatest. Number one Klitschko doesnt have the talent in his competition to prove much, and he has shown little mental toughness, in giving up against guys like Ross Purrity, Sanders and Brewster. When the going gets tough, he quit. He showed some mental improvment in the Peter, fight, but Sam Peter can never be considered to be on the same level as a George Foreman. Klitschko is a talented athelete, but he doesnt have the guts nor does he have the competition to reach all time great stature. It takes evenly matched complete fighters to face each other to produce an all time great. He will go down as a talented heavyweight in a weak era.
     
  12. Relentless

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    the klitschko quote of the week thread.
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Here are a list of fighters from the 90's until now that are better than Wlad:

    Riddick Bowe
    Evander Holyfield
    Vitali Klitscho
    Lennox Lewis

    Wlad has some good skils, but he seems too content to stand on the outside and jab all night. Bowe, Lewis and Vitali are big enough to get in close with Wlad using their own jab. Wlad is not a great inside fighter, and becomes a bit timid when guys get in his ass and start firing shots from close range. Evander is pure heart and brute strength. He'll eat a couple of jabs to get on the inside, and then he would proceed to do some serious damage to Wlad's face. If Corrie Sanders can intimidate this guy, I'm sure everyone else on my list could as well.
     
  14. lefthook31

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    Why is Vitali on the list?? Who has he beaten?? He lost to Lewis remember, and quit against Byrd. Vitali accomplished nothing in the 90's either.
     
  15. BigReg

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    Who has Wlad beat? Vitali hurt his rotator cuff when he quit against Byrd. He was clearly winning that fight,at the time it was stop. Also, there is no shame in losing to Lewis, he's one of the best HW's of all time. Vitali was ahead when that fight was stopped too. Actually, Vitali has never even been knocked down his entire career. Wlad has been knocked out 3 times(his losses where alot worse than Vitali's). Are you really going to tell me that Wlad could beat his older brother? I don't think so, Vitali isn't an ATG, but he would beat Wlad.