Is wladimir klitschko the greatest Heavweight of all time?

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  1. KO byBRIGGS

    KO byBRIGGS Making a comeback Full Member

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    No he is not, there are many fights that could be made that he doesnt take for whatever reason, I for one want to see him fight someone bigger than him or atleast around the same size. Any of the following opponents:

    Shannon Briggs
    Nicolai Valuev
    Tony Thompson

    I`m not saying he'd lose but I want to see him fight big opponents.
     
  2. IOANNIS

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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    No. Wlad has yet to crack the top 15, and quite possibly, has not cracked the top 20. However, if he dominates the division for the foreseeable future, his name might well deserve mention on a very short list.
     
  4. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who did he fight in his last fights though? Ray Austin, come on everyone said that was a joke of an opponent so that performance tells us nothing, as for Brewster, a guy coming off over a year out the ring, coming off a loss and severe injury detatched retina which by his demeaner and his trainers words as early as the 2nd round about how he wasnt going to let him take any shots tonight, at a point before he had really taken anything big! Essentially Brewster was mentally unfit to be in a fight due to that injury, all the instructions shouted at thim during the rounds were about staying in the shell defence and out of wlads punching zone, they had no plan of fighting or attack. 2 uncompetitive opponents that shoulkd never of been in world title fights at that point. That tells us nothing, you may as well watch him in training and say he looks good against that heavy bag! What will tell us about wlad is what happens when he gets hit, will his legs go wobbly and everything fall apart, will he leap in to grab hold and lean down on his opponent or will he be able to use a new technique of continuing to fight!

    From all those possible match ups you mention, we do know that Lewis would be the absolute favourite to of ko`d wlad IF that fight had happened back in 2002/03 which is the only window in which it could have happened. Nobody seriously believes wlad would have won at that point, as for a mystical prime vs prime fight, who knows at this point because we dont really have many questions answered about wlad from the last couple of opponents, so youd have to still go with Lewis just now. What i think everyone would also agree is that Vitali would always beat wlad, he is alot tougher despite wlads skill. And Remember, Lewis beat Vitali while at his oldest, most inactive and heaviest so he proved tougher or at least as tough. The mental capacity and heart to come back from disasterous early rounds like Lewis did against Vitali is what will bring wlad the respect and acclaim and shut the doubters up, thats something we havent seen in him as yet! Hopefully his next fight isnt another showcase peice of matchmaking for the german crowd by bringing in a past 40 Sanders back from inactivity and a beating from big brother Vitali, thats about as nonsense a title fight today as bringing in a one eyed Brewster, too late, he would be just as well fighting Ali now! For all it will prove.
     
  5. Sakura

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    "What i think everyone would also agree is that Vitali would always beat wlad, he is alot tougher despite wlads skill"

    Rubbish..better Klitchko is younger one and his already achieve more than Vitali. Wlads skill level is much higher than Vitalis...Lennox fans has always agenda against wladimir, because Lennox win older brother. Years ago klitchkos say that they want fight vitali vs Tyson and Wlad vs Lewis
     
  6. Sonny's jab

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    The ESB Forum Greatest heavyweights of All-time :

    1. Wlad Klitschko
    2. Lennox Lewis
    3. Vitali Klitschko
    4. Muhammad Ali
    5. Chris Byrd
    6. Lamon Brewster
    7. Mike Tyson
    8. Corrie Sanders
    9. Larry Holmes
    10. Evander Holyfield
    11. George Foreman
    12. Monte Barrett
    13. Sam Peter
    14. James Toney
    15. Rocky Marciano
    16. Joe Louis
    17. Jameel McCline
    18. Calvin Brock
    19. Sonny Liston
    20. Ross Purrity
     
  7. Lupe

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    This is the best answer you're ever gonna get.
     
  8. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    Bull****!

    How come is Ali so high up while Ross Purity at #20? What about Francois Botha?
     
  9. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wladimir is entitled to some respect, but only a wise boxing fan would sum up his wins/loses and give him a spot in the ATG/HOF AFTER his career is over.:good I think he's got a few more good fights ahead of him.
     
  10. marauder1999

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    Toney is #14????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: --------what the **** is he on here at all????
     
  11. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    :huh

    :rofl
     
  12. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    Wlad as of right now has established himself as the best hw in the world by a wide margin and is moving closer to becoming undisputed each fight. That's it! Nothing more, nothing less.
     
  13. PeterNielsen70

    PeterNielsen70 Active Member Full Member

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    Almost totally agree - but why not move Lamon Brewsten a couple of places up the list:think
     
  14. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Brewster above Ali for sure
     
  15. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Brewster, not Brewsten.
    And my danish friend, do not disrespect a warrior :good
    That avatar makes me crazy