Isn't Haymon a "counselor"?

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  1. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. I don't get your point. He let's smaller promoters make money using his brand and they have both parties fighters in the show. He is a saving grace for the small guy or it would just be Golden Boy and Top Rank like it use to be. So who's really trying to run a Monopoly?
     
  3. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haymon is TMT Promotions. No way dumb ass Ellerbe alone could run a company. :D
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Just for men who are feeling ***ually confused. The rest of the time he's a manager/promoter.
     
  5. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We all know that. It was sarcastic. He is laughing at the authorities when he is saying he is a "counselor". I'm not saying everything is wrong with PBC cause there is some interesting stuff. What I don't like is the monopoly he is trying to create by by-passing the laws like a snake.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing managers and promoters have long worked through fronts: you've had Goosens involved with fighters at the manager, trainer and promotional level, and Duvas doing the same. Don King's house manager was always his son, Carl.

    If anyone needs to be investigated for Muhammad Ali Act violations, start with the families that have been doing this for decades, not the new kid on the block just because he's kicking their fannies.
     
  7. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With his PBC series, Haymon is working with guys like DiBella. DiBella is a pretty prominent promoter. I'm not sure how you prove a guy like Lou DiBella is a front man.
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Case closed, gents. Swollen Liver has cracked it!
     
  9. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's an interesting perspective. But what about HBO? HBO pays a licensing fee for a fight, and the fighters get paid the bulk of their money from that, not directly from the promoter. I don't think you would call Bob Arum a sham promoter because a guy like Tim Bradley got the bulk of his money from HBO. What Haymon has going on is an interesting setup though. He's basically playing the role of HBO here as he is the one that raised all of the money to buy T.V. time.

    I'm not deeply intimate with all of the promotional details, but I believe guys like DiBella are still handling many of the same logistics that promoter's doing cards on HBO handle. So from that perspective, Haymon is no more a promoter than HBO is. He's not a manager either. He's something that I don't quite remember seeing before in the sport; he's an individual functioning similarly to HBO and Showtime.
     
  10. Doc Everlast

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    I think the lawsuits from GBP and Top Rank are just fishing to see if they can get Haymon to open the books. Then they can follow the money. But didn't Haymon ask for an Arbitrator in the GBP lawsuit? When someone does that it usually means they don't want to disclose anything.
     
  11. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd has said in many interviews circa 2009-2011 that Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe are doing a great job with Mayweather Promotions. So you have Floyd on tape saying it.