isnt it crazy how tyson fury ....

that's the story of his career

He only started paying out for a chef after Wilder 1!

Which is crazy

Fury is mentally gifted but that comes with a curse

Drinks diet cokes in his camps which is basically poison and worse than normal coke...oh and the coke coke.

 

He's somebody that fights to the level of his opponent. Always has. I have no doubt he'll look significantly better Vs Usyk than he did against Ngannou.

I just dont think he's got it in him to beat Usyk anymore. Prime for prime it's a 50/50 fight but Fury looks further over the hill than Usyk does.

 

I’m not a massive fan but he was brilliant in the second Wilder fight

 

Yup and then boom elbow surgeries and hasn't thrown his jab the same since.

Shouldn't have even been in the ring for that 3rd Wilder fight

What people don't see is the TUE exemptions for steroid shots which both Fury & Usyk use for their joints because without them they're shot to pieces. Usyk hides his wear and tear extremely well.

 

Hes not capable of 100% with his booze, cocaine and kebab binges.

 

Depends on how you measure greatness. Defeating other greats and \ or cleaning out the division for me. So, no, doesn't really count for much.

 

Fury not only cleaned out the division WITH EASE he waxed and polished it.

 

Only by the definition of the Biff Tannen school of waxing and polishing your car, at the end of Back To The Future 1.

 

Disagree. I see someone who had trained his ass off and learned to box properly after basically catching my eye as a european self-uppercutting level talent who was on par with Chisora. That's why the fatty has such a love affair with Dereck--Chisora gave him his first real shot.

Fury's advancement in the sport skillwise has been remarkable. His early career was oafish and he was unable to generate proper leverage. Even into the Cunningham fight he had a lot to learn before he became the smooth boxing leverage puncher we saw in Wilder 2 and 3.

He may have struggled earlier but that was because he wasn't The Tyson Fury yet, even after Klitschko he improved. Ngannou is the first top level fight where I've seen him turn in a super dud due to undertraining. Wallin got him bleeding fair and square, hard to fight cut up like that but he did.

 

Fury took Chisora's virginity, Wlad ducked Chisora after giving Vitali hell for leather a few years later.

 

How many fights has Fury lost? It seems he always finds a way even in adversity.
Knock downs, cuts........he always rides through and comes out on top.
Surprising so many people make out like he's a bum. When he ain't.

 

If he was beating the likes of Joshua, Hrgovic, Zhang, Usyk, etc then you'd have a point.

But struggling vs an MMA fighter and fighting a journeyman Chisora 3 times isn't showing greatness my guy.

And being an obese lard ass isn't showing greatness either in a sport which requires dedication and being in shape, the fact Fury turns up in the shape he does he makes a mockery of all the former greats who held the Lineal Heavyweight title and the sport itself.

 

I'm not trying to say Fury isn't talented or no good. I actually think he is. My issue, as I've said repeatedly on this forum, is that he hasn't fought the top names among his contemporaries to prove he is the best of his era - let alone an all time great (Lennox Lewis, for example, virtually cleaned out his main rivals AND the top contenders of his day). So to say that Fury winning on 30% - 50% 'shows he is great' makes no sense. How on earth do we measure greatness then? Not in things like title defences, longevity or quality of competition? Does he become 'greater' if he wins on a lower percentage of effort? Does his opposition count (e.g. Chisora 3 \ Ngannou)? And how do you even measure what percent he is supposedly operating on? It's just silly.

 

He does hace heart in the ring but also has been lucky. Should have two losses vs mcdermott and ngannou and could have two more vs Wilder and Usyk.
Also makes it seem like a lack of quaity opposition which makes people question there to be smoke and mirrors involved.
Dont be surprised if hets a hamed vs barrera type beating by Usyk.