Isn't it weird that...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Pat_Lowe, Jul 13, 2007.


  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who says I'm gone?
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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  4. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    Oh he makes a return. Thats good, do you know where Hank has gone to?
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I can imagine them all in some horrible caravan telling each other how right they are.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    ...or one man in a hall of mirrors.
     
  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What makes people think I've been gone. I have been here all this time.
    Hank is probably taking some time off. I'll have to check if his name is still listed as a member.
     
  9. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only identities on here I'm really convinced are the same individual are Revolver and Homicidal Hank. Hank turned up shortly after Revolver was banned, he has the same writing style and personality (condescending and self-assured, likes to argue from record statistics or weight/age numbers and refer to various top fighters as "journeymen," likes to say someone "whipped" someone else, etc.), and has the exact same opinions on nearly every topic, including all kinds of extremely eccentric ideas all of which no two people would have(the claim that WWII severely depleted the talent level, but only at heavyweight for some reason, that Marciano ducked Nino Valdes, that Hagler should have won easily and by a wide margin against Leonard, that virtually all old-time fighters, especially Marciano and Louis, are badly overrated, that Jersey Joe Walcott and any fighter without a nice-enough win-loss record is a "journeyman," that there was a giant explosion of talent in the heavyweight division simultaneous with Marciano's retirement, that Holmes should be the #2 heavyweight of all time after Ali, etc.). If they aren't the same person, I think we may have to reassess the evidence for psychic linkage and reincarnation.
    On the other hand, Redrooster and Pepping It show different-enough writing styles, character traits and opinions that I'm not entirely conviced they're aliases as well.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What was he banned for?
     
  11. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, in his new identity, he's ceased or at least decreased the activities which got him banned as Revolver, but I'd say he was banned because(and these reasons are cumulative and interlocking):
    He was borderline spamming on and on and on about the same two or three topics for several months, making literally about a thread per day to attack Marciano, along with a seemingly endless string of attacks against Louis and nearly everyone Marciano or Louis ever fought. But posting so many threads about the subject that nearly half the front page was made up of them wasn't enough; he actually went around hijacking unrelated threads to turn them into further debates about his same little circle of topics(eg. when someone made a thread about Zora Folley, he'd go in and say, "Well, he was better than Ezzard Charles" and turn the thread into a debate about Charles and Marciano). He behaved in a fashion which was extremely condescending, smug and disrespectful(which was especially annoying in light of how ridiculous so many of his opinions were and how paper-thin the arguments he used to support them- in fact, at this time, he argued based on virtually nothing but ages, weights and win-loss records), and made numerous unsubstantiated and almost-certainly false claims, like that he had a Ph.D, was a statistician, was a college professor and professional researcher, had a personal library in which he kept microfilms of past boxing periodicals(and all the while he was saying this he never displayed any knowledge that couldn't be pretty readily found on the internet). This was all made yet still more aggravating by his proclamations that his viewpoints were "empirical fact" and that he had "proven" various subjective qualitative ideas "scientifically".
    At first, he would also descend into flaming and verbally abuse his opposition, but toned that down after being banned once and allowed by the moderator to return. However, his various other activities continued, including the constant, repetitive spam threads, thread hijacking, condescension, fraudulent claims, and all-around disagreeableness, which was severely hampering discussion in general(this wasn't like your typical aberrant poster- literally about half the threads on the front page would be Revolver threads aimed at accomplishing his one-man crusade to revise boxing history, and most of the ones that weren't started by him were hijacked by him) and destroying the quality of the forum. He was then banned a second time, before returning as Homicidal Hank- and in this third incarnation, he's at least learned to present his off-the-wall opinions in appropriate context and without spamming, and behaves in an acceptable manner to allow for sound discussion.
     
  12. McGrain

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    God Almighty...it sounds like a virtual Mad Max post-holocoust lawless world.

    Glad I missed all that.

    Well it sounds like these two are def the same. You could be describeing a much less intense version of Hank in the above.

    Christ, I think what you're describing would actually make me want to kill.

    Apart from that microfilm/professor stuff, that would be a hoot:lol:
     
  13. Marciano Frazier

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    Like I say, aside from their more obvious similarities and the timing of their appearances, look at the set of all the unusual peculiarities they share(which I listed earlier on) and it will become apparent that if they aren't the same person, they must have done a Vulcan mind-meld.

    That's how most of the forum felt.

    Personally, I thought the microfilm/professor stuff was some of the funniest material he had. The whole episode was somehow funny, sad and unspeakably annoying all at the same time.
     
  14. achillesthegreat

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  15. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They walk alike, they talk alike, there Identical cousins...H.H. + Revolver