Isn't there a ruling that Champions must defend their title twice a year?

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  1. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am talking mainly about the N.B.A. and NYSAC, all other sanctions, forget about it, no concern here.

    These two Boxing Commissions controlled the era I am talking about.
     
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  2. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    every six months, that's twice a year
     
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  3. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you thinking of the demand made in 1972 that Frazier defend the title, so he fought Terry Daniels?
     
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  4. SolomonDeedes

    SolomonDeedes Active Member Full Member

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    I know that when the NBA first brought in their system of grouping the ratings into logical contenders, outstanding boxers and honorable mentions, the idea was that a champion should make at least one defence each year against a logical contender, and at least one more against either an outstanding boxer or a logical contender. How effectively it was ever enforced is another matter.
     
  5. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A logical contender and outstanding boxer would be ranked the same # 1 challenging contenders in each division, and could be rated #1, 2, 3 ,4 for what ever reason that suits the NYSAC. The N.B.A. was a fighters best chance, to break down the monopoly of the NY moguls who were in control, who they decide is their Champion. They , Mike Jacobs ( controlled on the boxing venues, and ball parks in NY) and NYSAC slept together, Jacobs calling all the shots. They were called Mike Jacobs House Champions, and he didn't want to lose any! He sidelined any dangerous fighters that threatened his kingdom , and his commission protected them all. That is how it was!
     
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  6. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Further note:

    The Ring Magazine monthly ratings of fighters in all divisions were compiled by Eddie Borden, Nat Fleischer in collaboration with 200 (168 nationally) Sportswriters over the world. Mike Jacobs did not agree with their selections, of course he wanted his fighters to be rated higher. He threatened to write his own ratings in the future. The nation's fans would tear it to pieces as a biased selection, one to fit the promotion plans of Promoter Uncle Mike Jacobs. As mentioned in the Ring Magazine March, 1941.
     
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  7. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I read that the now defunct N.B.A. was harassing champion Floyd Patterson in 1961 to defend the title he won from Ingo in 1960. So in 1961 he fought McNeely and Johansson again.
     
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  8. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    in Britain the same, with Levene & Solomons... Freddie Mills NEVER Defended his British L-HW title, not once in 8 years, the War only accounting for the first 3 years of his reign, no excuse from 45/46 - 1950.

    Rules, Ratings and Competition always takes a backseat to Backers, Money and their interests.
     
  9. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I couldn't agree with you more. They fought guys that were selected by what they are told to do, building false resume, and voiding the chaps that can beat their Champions. They're called house champions.
     
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I wish there was such a ruling that a modern champion, unless injured must fight two a year. Heck one of the defenses should be against a top 10 recognized opponent, not from a sanctioning body, but one that appears in Ring Magazine, and Box Rec as in all probability if he's listed by both 3rd parties, he's probably a legit top ten man.

    If the fighter wants a knock out a mandatory, let hm fight a 3rd time in a year or count that as his second as long as he fulfills a defense vs a top 10 man,

    IMO Fury and Wilder have cheapened the heavyweight belt by fighting way too many non top 10 types, and sometime struggling while they are doing it. Joshua is better at picking opponents. Still these three feast on way too many old men for title matches. If your close to or over 40 and in visible decline the " champions " want you in the heavyweight division for a title match.

    If Hrgovic defeats Hunter as I suspect he will, it will be very interring to see f the winner of Joshua vs. Fury, keep their IBF belt and defend it, or drops that belt and just stay WBC champion, letting the winner of Hrgovic vs. Hunter to fight someone else for the IBF belt they rank or is suing them for not getting title match they were promised. Ah, boxing....
     
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  11. ron davis

    ron davis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree 101% with you. The newspapers and media are part of this fiasco. They make champions that aren't really champions. I believe it was Jack Dempsey that said, "newspapers make champions." As they promote fighters for the promoters and don't want them to look bad, bringing in big financial gates.
     
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