Israel Vazquez

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will be the first to admit it; I am a boxing dinosaur, stuck in the era I loved growing up, the 80's. No further exploration into boxing history has supplanted that, and to be frank I don't expect it to. I'm an 80's kid. New Coke, Tears For Fears, and Marvin Hagler, baby.

    There are occasional sojourns outside my little comfort zone, however. Since the advent of this forum and youtube, I have developed deep appreciations for fighters I had not been fortunate enough to see live back in the day.

    The same can be said about modern boxing, for which I have no love. It is too contrived now, too splintered. Too many titles, too much marginalizing, too much shooting itself in the foot year after year. Too much bad, and I don't look at it through such idealized eyes these days.

    I have found one current fighter though, that cuts through all that and makes me want to watch, though he is probably finished by now; that fighter is Izzy Vazquez.

    I love this guy. He is a total warhorse, and this generation's answer to Matthew Saad Muhammad. I watched his fight with Jhonny Gonzalez recently and couldn't help thinking the spirit of Saad had been summoned somehow. And of course his fights with Rafael Marquez speak for themselves. Epic. He is as pure a fighter as anyone of any era, and lets me for a moment forget what era I live in. I thank him for that.

    Is anyone else a fan? I'd love to start some discussion about his place in history in his own weight classes, but I don't know how well he compares with the other greats through the years. Oddly, in this case, it doesn't matter.

    He and Pintor would have been amazing.

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  2. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    He's the ****ing man.
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Amen. What's your favorite fight of his?
     
  4. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I loved the Gonzalez fight and it's a testament to how many epic bouts he's had that it isn't his greatest fight. The trilogy with Marquez, because I choose to ignore the fourth fight, was the best in boxing history, I think. It may not have had the significance of Ali/Frazier, the quality of Leonard/Duran but as far as pure excitement goes, nothing touches those first three fights, I don't think.

    Hopefully he does retire, though I heard he will be returning at some point. I worry about the amount of damage he has taken in his career and people often forget that before the Marquez fights, Freddie Roach refused to train him again because he suspected Vazquez had started to slur his words and should retire.

    His legacy is untouchable but his health isn't, so I hope we have seen the last of him, in the best way I can possibly mean that.
     
  5. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    S,I go back to the golden age of the 1940s, and it was my favorite era, not because I'm a dinosaur, but the sheer volume of great fighters that abounded those days. But my favorite fighter of recent years was Israel Vasquez, who would have fit in nicely in that rich laden era. Vasquez had it all, courage, endurance, ruggedness and a hell of a left-hook ! And what a crowd pleaser !!! Cheers...
     
  6. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    The third showdown with Marquez, which is also probably my favorite fight of all time. I loved him. Wasn't difficult to find, was proned to cuts, but damn if that guy wasn't one of the toughest *******s I've ever seen, and I always thought he was a really, really nice offensive fighter at his best, a bit underrated even. The Marquez bouts get all the attention (rightfully so), and as you said, his battle with Gonzalez was magnificent. Check out the trilogy with Larios if you haven't already. The middle bout - the one he lost - was fantastic.
     
  7. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup; just saw the second Larios fight a few days ago. He got waxed for sure, in a way that would have spelled the end for a lot of other "phenoms." He didn't just get stopped, he got the **** kicked out of him. Physically and mentally, that's a difficult thing to rebound from. He never seemed to let that influence him too much. I loved that. He understood that losing is as much a part of this thing as winning is, and that at the end of the day most people lose a little more than they win in life. He embodies that inevitability. That's why he's loved in a way Mayweather could never, nor will ever be.
     
  8. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    The image of him dropping to his knees and then being carried around by his corner man as blood pours down both sides of his face after his rally to stop Marquez in the 2nd bout is my favorite in my relatively brief time as a boxing fan. I actually rooted against him the first time around (as I also love Rafa), but that 2nd fight made me a fan for life, and established him as probably my favorite fighter in boxing at the time. The guy's just about everything you want a boxer to be.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    If he and Marquez had only 3 fights, I would've probably called it the best trilogy ever filmed.

    The last round of the third fight was shades of Chacon-Limon 4.


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  10. IntentionalButt

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    Over six years running of Izzy love, right here. (was already smitten going back a few bouts before my registration on ESB...war with Guerrero, Larios rubber, the infamous platinum-hair-styled-by-his-beautician-girlfriend-turning-pink-and-then-red-with-opponent's-blood match against Hernandez, then the epic comeback against Jhonny...and to think this smash-mouth gladiatorial legacy was all cemented before the trilogy :scaredas:)
     
  11. Zopilote

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    El Maginifico!!

    Magnificant is what he was really, His fights with Larios, the epic fight against Gonzalez, the brutal trilogy with Rafa...What a great fighter Izzy was. Not liking him should be a serious crime punishable by long years of Prison time.
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love that guy, I mean how can´t you?
     
  13. Flea Man

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    3rd fight with Rafa is one of my alltime favourites!
     
  14. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They're all good except the fourth one, but that third Marquez fight ranks right up there with the great bouts of any era.
     
  15. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tears for Fears! They were great. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" is great. Spandau Ballet's "True" is one of my favorite songs ever but don't tell anyone because I feel like a sissy.

    Great stuff and I agree all over the place. Vasquez is one of the many Mexican fighters practically carrying the sport who makes me wish I was Mexican. Imagine him and Barrera or Morales?

    I just spent 2 months on what I'm calling the "True Successions" for all 17 weight divisions. I'm hoping that it will be some sort of beginning of the end of the nonsense that the WBSs have brought into the sport. Some of my conclusions into who was and was not a true champion are hard, though. There are rules -and if a great fighter failed to fight the successor for whatever reason, he ain't nothing but a belted pretender to the throne. Anyway, I'm happy to report that Vazquez's junior featherweight crown is legit.