Israil Madrimov vs. Terence Allan Crawford & Jared Dovan Anderson vs. Martin Bakole Ilunga RBR.

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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree, the talk of Canelo is silly going off this performance, Bud would get battered.
     
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  2. DRUGS

    DRUGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm pretty sure that was the 11th, which Crawford definitely won.
     
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  4. kirk

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    Ah, kk.

    Ill find a youtube here soon.

    Either way, immense heart from Mad.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This is just off the top of my head. Robberies and close fights which ever so conveniently were scored in one direction

    Kovalev x 2 vs Ward, GGG x 2 vs Clenelo, Loma x 2 vs Haney and Salido, Korobov x 2 vs Jermallo and Aleem, Hot Rod vs Browne and Morrell, Madrimov vs Crawford, Potapov vs Greer Jr, Golub vs Clark, Hamazaryan vs Mattice x 2, Akhmedov x 3 vs Barrios, Simms Jr, Puello

    How many times were the fighters they were robbed against or didn't get the rub of the green against robbed against foreigners, let alone on a deck stacked against them with a home ref and three home judges? The answer is real interesting

    They even tried to rob Bivol vs Clenelo, scoring the fight to Bivol by one round

    @CST80 anymore you can think of?

    And if we go back in time Golota vs Ruiz and Byrd, Sturm vs Oscar, Kotelnik vs Alexander, Karmazin vs Spinks etc.
     
  6. kirk

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    I know youre probably trolling (I say that respectfully), but its always kinda interesting seeing people still claim a robbery when the overwhelming majority of fans scored it the same way the judges did.

    70% of fans have scored it for Crawford in the poll here lol.

    Calling this a robbery is an insult to actual robberies.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm drawing a blank right now, because I'm dead tired, I'll try to think of some tomorrow. But IMO the outcome of Jaime Munguía vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko was shady as hell. As was Andreas Katzourakis vs. Qudratillo Abdukakhorov which ended in a gift Katzourakis MD.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah funny that, eh? lol

    It's sickening. I've said it 100 times before but foreigners should never fight in the US until they can start playing fair over there. They will rob them or score close fights against them 99 times out of 100

    And they stack the deck with a home ref and three home judges, as they once again did tonight even after Madrimov's team implored them to just give him a fair shake, damn near all the time which literally never happens in any other country in the world for world title fights between a home and an away fighter.

    Hell, they even do it for undisputed fights too like Jermello vs Castano and Taylor vs JCR. Not a single neutral ref or judge in sight but when Haney travelled to Australia x 2 and Fulton to Japan every single ref and judge was from a neutral country

    We even have neutral judges for European title fights over here or if not 1 home, 1 away, 1 neutral judge
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    OK thanks. I'm exhausted too.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't care how other fans score it. I never said it was a robbery I said it's funny how 99% of these robberies and close fights and controversial decisions over in the US between fighters from the former Soviet Union and home boys are almost always scored in one direction and the fighters from the former Soviet Union never receive the rub of the green 99% of the time over there or close if not that high

    And I pointed out the fact that they damn near always stack the deck with a home ref and three home judges which literally never happens in any other country in the world for world title fights between a home and away fighter but is practically the norm in the US. This is clearly extremely unfair

    This fight was very close but.. surprise surprise.. for the millionth time.. the three US judges scored it for the home boy. That's my issue, Kirk
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One thing to note in the press conference is that Madrimov is pretty marked up. His forehead has a lot of brusing, and towards the end of the fight you could see some redness under one of his eyes. On the other hand, there did look to be some swelling over Crawford's eyes as well.

    I think both guys took a lot of punishment in this match. But both were in great condition to be able to absorb it all and give the fans a great fight.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's the official scorecards :

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    It was a majority draw after round 8, and again after round 10. Bud needed to win both Round 11 and 12 to win, otherwise it would have been a majority draw and Madrimov would have retained. That's how close it was.
     
  13. kirk

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    Someone can say they don't care how majority of viewers score something, but it just makes their opinions a bit daft when calling something a robbery that majority of viewers saw the same as the result.

    People need to learn that when their in a minority opinion on something to other valid scorers, it might not be everyone else thats always wrong.

    But if youre not calling this a robbery then fair enough.

    as for your point its not that complex Imo. Boxing is corrupt, real robberies happen all the time.

    This isnt one of them.

    As to your other points about stacking the deck, agreed its BS and there should be rules in place to prevent it. But that would make it harder for the powers at be to rob the B side.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    IB and I both scored it 115-113 Madrimov, and countless other posters many of whom stated they were Bud fans, scored it for him as well. Was it a robbery? Yeah, kind of. I mean, even two of the biased judges only scored it a point in Bud's favor, and the people who scored it for Bud did as well. So... the question is, consistently... why is it that EE fighters always get the shitty end of the stick?
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I meant I couldn't care less about how they scored it now. My issue is not with people scoring it for Crawford. It was a one round fight either way or a draw, my issue, as explained is with how these decisions in close fights over there go in one direction damn near all the time and how 99% of the time fighters from the former Soviet Union don't get the rub of the green. That's not a mere coincidence it's pure corruption.

    And they are completely shameless because they do it again and again and again

    Thanks for conceding that but it's not about the B side when only one country in the world stacks the deck with a home ref and three home judges though. It's about stacking the deck in favour of fighters from that country
     
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