Israil Madrimov vs. Terence Allan Crawford & Jared Dovan Anderson vs. Martin Bakole Ilunga RBR.

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  1. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My mistake it was in total threw to round three
     
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  3. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    I gave rd1 to Crawford as well but I can remember it being very close. Imo best I could see for Madrimov was 6-6 and that’s if u give him the first round, 7-5 Crawford was the best result but 8-4 was too far
     
  4. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    *Every scoring punch in someone’s opinion who likely has an agenda.
    This is only evidence that someone has an opinion.
    Don’t be lazy say what you think.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Says the self proclaimed biggest Crawford fanboy on the site. No agenda whatsoever from you though!:rolleyes:
     
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  6. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So I rescored the fight and I have to say it was closer than I thought.
    I still have Crawford winning the fight but by 7-5 rounds.
    I think if I watched it again and scored it again it is possible that I could have a different score.
    I don’t think there’s enough work from Madrimov to give him enough rounds for the win but I think if he had been more aggressive and active then I think Crawford was potentially there for the taking.
    Madrimov was displaying great movement and he has a light footed bounce and probing front hand similar to a martial artist very similar to the movement of a karate fighter.
    I think if he had just turned a few more of those feints into jabs followed by the odd body shot he could have taken a few more rounds.
    I don’t know what the judges were thinking but the commentators were being quite generous to Madrimov and praising shots that weren’t connecting, Crawford was landing the cleaner shots and he was countering most of the time when Madrimov was tagging him.
    I have to admit that I was wrong about the ability of Madrimov and I was wrong about how easy it would be for Crawford, it was a difficult fight for Crawford and I don’t know if he was just up against a very good fighter, if the move up in weight affected him or if he is now on the decline, I think it’s a combination of the first two but I think I was a bit overconfident about him facing Canelo, I don’t think we need to see that now, I can’t see a way where he has the time to move up in weight have enough fights to get comfortable age isn’t on his side now.
    I think he has to fight fundora next time as he’s the champion but that’s one fight that I think he find difficult, I didn’t think I’d say it but he might have gone a weight to far.

    crawford Madrimov
    1. 10. 9
    2. 9. 10
    3. 10. 9
    4. 9. 10
    5. 9. 10
    6. 9. 10
    7. 10. 9
    8. 10. 9
    9. 9. 10
    10. 10. 9
    11. 10. 9
    12. 10. 9

    115 - 113 Crawford
    A close fight but not a robbery,
     
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  7. MidniteProwler

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    You disrespect great men like the Tszyu family and Lomachenko but you claim to be Honourable. You are a fraud. The Mayor is a different animal I see right through you lad.
     
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  8. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Read my posts I have admitted to this and said I will go back and rescore the fight because I was probably biased towards Crawford I have done that and admitted that I was wrong about a few points.
    I have no problem admitting when I’m wrong or when I’ve been biased.
    But you should know this by now
     
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  9. CST80

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    Much better score on the rewatch! Now rewatch it the 7th, 8th and 12th!:sisi1

    Here's my card.

    Round 1 Crawford 10-9, close
    Round 2 Madrimov 10-9
    Round 3 Crawford 10-9
    Round 4 Madrimov 10-9
    Round 5 Madrimov 10-9
    Round 6 Crawford 10-9, close
    Round 7 Madrimov 10-9, close
    Round 8 Madrimov 10-9
    Round 9 Madrimov 10-9
    Round 10 Crawford 10-9, close
    Round 11 Crawford 10-9
    Round 12 Madrimov 10-9
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How tf did Madrimov win 12th
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Bud landed 12 shots, Madrimov landed 11, they were equal on power punches with 8 each, I valued Madrimov's, which were mostly straight rights to the face, more.
     
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  12. CST80

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    Round 1 3-0 Bud.
    Round 2 3-0 Bud.
    Round 3 2-1 Bud.
    Round 4 2-1 Madrimov
    Round 5 3-0 Madrimov.
    Round 6 2-1 Bud.
    Round 7 3-0 Madrimov.
    Round 8 2-1 Bud.
    Round 9 2-1 Bud.
    Round 10 2-1 Madrimov.
    Round 11 3-0 Bud.
    Round 12 3-0 Bud.

    So the judges had it 4 unanimous for Bud. 2 unanimous for Madrimov. While split on the other 6.

    Although 2-1 in Bud's favor for the 9th, is egregious bias, Madrimov clearly won that round.

    Also, what's up with the changed score in the 11th on Roussell's card?:dunno
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But the shots did nothing to Crawford and you admitted Crawford landed more. He literally hurt Madrimov with a counter whereas Crawford was never hurt. It makes no sense why would you value Madrimovs punches more. How many jabs did you count Crawford landing ?
     
  14. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can’t do it again it’s not easy admitting when iam wrong, I just don’t understand why Madrimov wasn’t throwing more punches than he did, he had the range and the footwork to at least flick a few scoring jabs out there.
    I think Madrimov showed that he has the composure of a real champion, he always looked comfortable in there and never strayed from his game plan.
    But the most surprising thing for me was that I came away from the fight being disappointed by Madrimov in that I felt he had an extra gear that he didn’t use.
    Maybe he showed Crawford to much respect, I think a lot of people seem to be disappointed in Crawford but I thought he did well when you consider the move up in weight and the awkwardness of Madrimov and at his age, but I feel confused about what Crawford should do next.
    The problem is now he has been talking to much about facing Canelo that if he doesn’t face him now he’s going to be guilty of ducking.
    I don’t want to see him fight Canelo now I just don’t see how he can move up two more weight classes, I think he needs to go all in on fundora and then maybe retire. He has no place at 160 or above.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    This is what I saw... hardcore in depth.


    Round 12 Madrimov 10-9

    Bud lands a left to the body, throws a looping hook, Madrimov catches it on his forearm. Bud throws 3 jabs, all three miss, walks into a looping right to the forehead from Madrimov. Bud miss with a left, Madrimov misses with a right. Bud presses forward, unloads a flurry, all caught on the gloves of Madrimov. Bud squares up, misses with a right. Bud pressuring, pumping out the jab, 2 of them land, but barely. A few fall short or being slapped down by Madrimov. Madrimov lands a few weak jabs, they trade jabs, both fall short. Vicious looping left from Bud, Madrimov catches it entirely on his glove. Jab lands from Bud. Madrimov falls short with a jab to the body, they trade jabs to the face, both probing with not much on them. Bud with a clubbing left followed by a right hook, off the top of Madrimov's head. Madrimov goes southpaw, misses with a jab, misses wildly with an overhand left haymaker. Madrimov lands right hook to the body, then a left hook up top clean. Bud lands right hook, but blocked on the forearm of Madrimov. Bud throws jab, misses, Madrimov counters with heavy lunging straight right. Bud gets him in a headlock. Madrimov lunged in with leaping right hook, most of it blocked, but some is cuffing to the left side of Bud's head. They trade jabs two hooks to the body from Bud, two uppercuts from Bud. Bud throws left, misses, Madrimov counters with a head jarring straight right. Bud throws an uppercut and jab, misses with both. Throws another uppercut to the glove of Madrimov, who was bending over, and grabbed Bud's waist. Bud gets him in a headlock. Bud throws three punches, all of them blocked by Madrimov's high guard. They trade partially blocked haymakers, Madrimov's was cleaner. Madrimov throws two left hooks, both to the forearm of Bud. Bud lands two right hooks to the forearm of Madrimov. Bud throws left, falls short, Madrimov immediately counters with nasty straight right that knocks Bud off balance. Madrimov throws a combo, it's blocked, Bud throws a 3 piece, it's blocked. Madrimov immediately counters with another right over the flurry. Madrimov marching forward, lands a hard overhand right. Then he lands another, while Bud counters with a left to the body. They both throw to head and body, with wild haymakers, both miss everything. Jab to the arm from Bud, Bud with missed uppercut and missed right hook. Madrimov backs him to the corner, lands a one two. Bud lands a left to the face. Madrimov still pressing forward, rips him with a left hook to the body. Bud grazes him with a right hook. Madrimov throws right, it's blocked, Bud counters to the body. Bud throws 3 shots, all to the gloves of Madrimov. Another 2 blocked hooks from Crawford, Madrimov beckons him forward. Madrimov lands hooks to the body, Bud holds, Madrimov throwing, but his arms are pinned, so they aren't landing clean. Madrimov grazes him with two wild hooks. Bud misses with a jab, Madrimov misses with overhand. Hard jab from Madrimov, then lands a hard looping right to the face. Bud grabs him, throws, his shots bounce off of Madrimov's back. Close as hell round, almost even. But I simply think Madrimov was more accurate, was never hurt, and landed the more eye catching punches.

    Now, go watch it back, and tell me... was anything I wrote inaccurate?